Car park plan revealed as approval sought to demolish Condor building in Kendal

The Westmorland Gazette: The Condor Building at Busher Walk The Condor Building at Busher Walk

CUMBRIA County Council is seeking planning permission to demolish the Condor Building in Busher Walk, Kendal, to make way for a pay and display car park.

Plans have been submitted to South Lakeland District Council’s plannning committee to remove the unused office block and its neighbouring structures.

If approved, the Condor building would be knocked down using heavy machinery and the subsequent rubble sorted and where possible recycled.

Other buildings described as the ‘B&D block and garages’ will be demolished by hand due to their close proximity to the boundary wall of the site.

Cumbria County Council has indicated the pay and display car park proposal will be the subject of a separate planning application.

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7:08pm Sat 28 Dec 13

nickjohn says...

It's a shame they could not rent the offices out to new start up businesses, or even established ones. That would be more help than another car park - unless of course they are going to use the formation of new spaces in another argument for getting rid of new road free parking..
It's a shame they could not rent the offices out to new start up businesses, or even established ones. That would be more help than another car park - unless of course they are going to use the formation of new spaces in another argument for getting rid of new road free parking.. nickjohn

7:31pm Sat 28 Dec 13

loughrigg says...

Oh great. The junctions of Busher Walk and Burneside Rd can't cope with current levels of traffic. Let's put another 1000 cars through them at 8.30 every morning.
Oh great. The junctions of Busher Walk and Burneside Rd can't cope with current levels of traffic. Let's put another 1000 cars through them at 8.30 every morning. loughrigg

8:23pm Sat 28 Dec 13

shirtbox2003 says...

going to be more pay & display car parks than shops.what do sldc spend the parking fee money on.? truthfully.
going to be more pay & display car parks than shops.what do sldc spend the parking fee money on.? truthfully. shirtbox2003

8:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

life cycle too says...

shirtbox2003 wrote:
going to be more pay & display car parks than shops.what do sldc spend the parking fee money on.? truthfully.
Wages and pensions for the chief officers, such as Lawrence Conway, and paying compensation following failed legal actions over disability rights?

Oh, and the street improvements that K Village were supposed to pay for before they went bust without stumping up the cash!!
[quote][p][bold]shirtbox2003[/bold] wrote: going to be more pay & display car parks than shops.what do sldc spend the parking fee money on.? truthfully.[/p][/quote]Wages and pensions for the chief officers, such as Lawrence Conway, and paying compensation following failed legal actions over disability rights? Oh, and the street improvements that K Village were supposed to pay for before they went bust without stumping up the cash!! life cycle too

9:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

nickjohn says...

wonder if they will include the current free sldc staff car park within the pay and display one??

Good point about the access loughrigg, they turned down a re development of the old little chef on the bypass due to the increase of traffic on and off the bypass at the garage so how can they possibly approve an increase such as this :-)
wonder if they will include the current free sldc staff car park within the pay and display one?? Good point about the access loughrigg, they turned down a re development of the old little chef on the bypass due to the increase of traffic on and off the bypass at the garage so how can they possibly approve an increase such as this :-) nickjohn

3:10pm Sun 29 Dec 13

archiebored says...

seems like the perfect place for local housing needs. rather than digging up greenery!
seems like the perfect place for local housing needs. rather than digging up greenery! archiebored

11:57am Tue 31 Dec 13

nickjohn says...

The demolition of the Condor building is to commence in early January 2014, I understand from the SLDC web site that the work did not actually require planning permission...
The demolition of the Condor building is to commence in early January 2014, I understand from the SLDC web site that the work did not actually require planning permission... nickjohn

2:42pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Kendal Jock says...

Where do these people get their wonderful ideas from?
I agree with nickjohn. Start-up business use could be a good
thing, provided SLDC reduced their ridiculously high business rates.
Where do these people get their wonderful ideas from? I agree with nickjohn. Start-up business use could be a good thing, provided SLDC reduced their ridiculously high business rates. Kendal Jock

4:40pm Tue 31 Dec 13

jazzactivist says...

I agree with some of the other points here. Surely the building/s would be better converted into affordable live / work accommodation for people wanting to start up new businesses? It seems like an own goal to spend loads of money demolishing a building only to build a car park to bring in money! Kendal doesn't need another P&D car park as, now that the price of parking in the town centre is so expensive, there are always spaces in the existing car parks!
I agree with some of the other points here. Surely the building/s would be better converted into affordable live / work accommodation for people wanting to start up new businesses? It seems like an own goal to spend loads of money demolishing a building only to build a car park to bring in money! Kendal doesn't need another P&D car park as, now that the price of parking in the town centre is so expensive, there are always spaces in the existing car parks! jazzactivist

11:21am Wed 1 Jan 14

wezzyk says...

Article says Cumbria County Council are seeking permission from SLDC to do this so why the rant at SLDC??

It is an old CCC building that will need loads spending on it before it can be rented out, they currently don't use it so why not put a car park on it and try to earn money??
Article says Cumbria County Council are seeking permission from SLDC to do this so why the rant at SLDC?? It is an old CCC building that will need loads spending on it before it can be rented out, they currently don't use it so why not put a car park on it and try to earn money?? wezzyk

5:21pm Wed 1 Jan 14

snuggle-bunny says...

dont be so negative. we have sldc in control, what could possibly go wrong
dont be so negative. we have sldc in control, what could possibly go wrong snuggle-bunny

5:39pm Wed 1 Jan 14

jazzactivist says...

Because, wezzyk, there has been a long, ongoing debate about the high cost of parking in Kendal and how that is affecting the prosperity of the town - in case you hand't noticed! Why shouldn't CCC and SLDC team up and spend money on renovating the building to convert it into affordable housing which is really needed? I think as taxpayers we all want to see evidence that our money is being spent where it is most needed.
Because, wezzyk, there has been a long, ongoing debate about the high cost of parking in Kendal and how that is affecting the prosperity of the town - in case you hand't noticed! Why shouldn't CCC and SLDC team up and spend money on renovating the building to convert it into affordable housing which is really needed? I think as taxpayers we all want to see evidence that our money is being spent where it is most needed. jazzactivist

11:42pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Lakeuk says...

CCC have no use for it and I guess it would be difficult in this climate to rent out or bring up to scratch if required, sure this has already been thought of.

CCC already rent private office space in Kendal in the Bridge Mills complex (old Prolific offices).

Can't see any reason that SLDC could turn this application down, parking can't be used as an excuse as that'll be a separate application.

Also remember CCC are planning to charge for on street parking in Kendal, yes they're doing a consultation but from the tone of councillors when interviewed it's becoming clear that the consultation is just another tick boxing exercise by the council.
CCC have no use for it and I guess it would be difficult in this climate to rent out or bring up to scratch if required, sure this has already been thought of. CCC already rent private office space in Kendal in the Bridge Mills complex (old Prolific offices). Can't see any reason that SLDC could turn this application down, parking can't be used as an excuse as that'll be a separate application. Also remember CCC are planning to charge for on street parking in Kendal, yes they're doing a consultation but from the tone of councillors when interviewed it's becoming clear that the consultation is just another tick boxing exercise by the council. Lakeuk

8:37am Thu 2 Jan 14

nickjohn says...

They have to make up their financial shortfalls some how, I believe they should start by charging sldc / ccc staff to park how many others get free parking when going to work in Kendal.

As for the on street parking / residents parking that's another rip off, they talked to us about introducing it, said it would stop people who work in town parking outside our house...... I have a drive!!! no one can park outside my house anyway... They said we would get 1 parking permit and 1 visitor permit. I have 2 kids who drive and live at home, where are they supposed to park!!!!!
They have to make up their financial shortfalls some how, I believe they should start by charging sldc / ccc staff to park how many others get free parking when going to work in Kendal. As for the on street parking / residents parking that's another rip off, they talked to us about introducing it, said it would stop people who work in town parking outside our house...... I have a drive!!! no one can park outside my house anyway... They said we would get 1 parking permit and 1 visitor permit. I have 2 kids who drive and live at home, where are they supposed to park!!!!! nickjohn

5:38pm Thu 2 Jan 14

snuggle-bunny says...

whiles't I agree and sympathise with nickjohn, living at a particular house or on a particular street doesn't automatically give you any legal parking rights. However! lets see this for what it is (no matter how you dress it up), another council money making scam
whiles't I agree and sympathise with nickjohn, living at a particular house or on a particular street doesn't automatically give you any legal parking rights. However! lets see this for what it is (no matter how you dress it up), another council money making scam snuggle-bunny

6:30pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nickjohn says...

snuggle-bunny wrote:
whiles't I agree and sympathise with nickjohn, living at a particular house or on a particular street doesn't automatically give you any legal parking rights. However! lets see this for what it is (no matter how you dress it up), another council money making scam
I quite agree no one has automatic parking rights but the introduction of permit parking immediately makes people feel they do have the right. As soon as they place that permit in their windscreen they defend the area outside their house.

I agree it is another money making scheme, they need as many as they can find to fund any shortfalls, I also believe the additional parking will be used at some point to try and justify getting rid of new road car park.
[quote][p][bold]snuggle-bunny[/bold] wrote: whiles't I agree and sympathise with nickjohn, living at a particular house or on a particular street doesn't automatically give you any legal parking rights. However! lets see this for what it is (no matter how you dress it up), another council money making scam[/p][/quote]I quite agree no one has automatic parking rights but the introduction of permit parking immediately makes people feel they do have the right. As soon as they place that permit in their windscreen they defend the area outside their house. I agree it is another money making scheme, they need as many as they can find to fund any shortfalls, I also believe the additional parking will be used at some point to try and justify getting rid of new road car park. nickjohn

2:16pm Fri 3 Jan 14

wezzyk says...

jazzactivist wrote:
Because, wezzyk, there has been a long, ongoing debate about the high cost of parking in Kendal and how that is affecting the prosperity of the town - in case you hand't noticed! Why shouldn't CCC and SLDC team up and spend money on renovating the building to convert it into affordable housing which is really needed? I think as taxpayers we all want to see evidence that our money is being spent where it is most needed.
Born in Kendal and living here for 40 plus years I don't think the cost of parking is affecting the prosperity of the town in any way shape or form. A long ongoing debate used to be the amount of traffic winding its way around town trying to find somewhere to park not fussed at the cost. Maybe for people working in Kendal and parking all day yes it is expensive but not for visitors to the town which brings prosperity to the town spending in local shops. I remember doing a traffic study asking tourists about their intentions as they sat in their cars for 10 minutes without moving on Highgate many years ago. They wanted to park and have a look around Kendal spend some money in the shops then have lunch and move on some where else in the Lakes but they wasted so much time they left frustrated spending nothing. Re: Considering its location I think it should be knocked down and it would ideal as a car park. I would think age and condition of the building will prevent it being considered for conversion into housing.
[quote][p][bold]jazzactivist[/bold] wrote: Because, wezzyk, there has been a long, ongoing debate about the high cost of parking in Kendal and how that is affecting the prosperity of the town - in case you hand't noticed! Why shouldn't CCC and SLDC team up and spend money on renovating the building to convert it into affordable housing which is really needed? I think as taxpayers we all want to see evidence that our money is being spent where it is most needed.[/p][/quote]Born in Kendal and living here for 40 plus years I don't think the cost of parking is affecting the prosperity of the town in any way shape or form. A long ongoing debate used to be the amount of traffic winding its way around town trying to find somewhere to park not fussed at the cost. Maybe for people working in Kendal and parking all day yes it is expensive but not for visitors to the town which brings prosperity to the town spending in local shops. I remember doing a traffic study asking tourists about their intentions as they sat in their cars for 10 minutes without moving on Highgate many years ago. They wanted to park and have a look around Kendal spend some money in the shops then have lunch and move on some where else in the Lakes but they wasted so much time they left frustrated spending nothing. Re: Considering its location I think it should be knocked down and it would ideal as a car park. I would think age and condition of the building will prevent it being considered for conversion into housing. wezzyk

5:41pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Fellstrider says...

Surely this site would make an ideal location for some new-build affordable housing, just like they did with the old auction site. I imagine it could be highly desirable for families to be living so close to the town centre.
Surely this site would make an ideal location for some new-build affordable housing, just like they did with the old auction site. I imagine it could be highly desirable for families to be living so close to the town centre. Fellstrider

6:25pm Fri 3 Jan 14

nickjohn says...

Fellstrider wrote:
Surely this site would make an ideal location for some new-build affordable housing, just like they did with the old auction site. I imagine it could be highly desirable for families to be living so close to the town centre.
Good point, we should lobby Tim farron on this point.
[quote][p][bold]Fellstrider[/bold] wrote: Surely this site would make an ideal location for some new-build affordable housing, just like they did with the old auction site. I imagine it could be highly desirable for families to be living so close to the town centre.[/p][/quote]Good point, we should lobby Tim farron on this point. nickjohn

10:44pm Fri 3 Jan 14

snuggle-bunny says...

we can sack the councilors at the ballot box. As for inhabitents at planet south lakeland house, who are they accountable to and what can be done to get rid of them
we can sack the councilors at the ballot box. As for inhabitents at planet south lakeland house, who are they accountable to and what can be done to get rid of them snuggle-bunny

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