Man sought over £2,000 'theft' from Carnforth supermarket car park

The Westmorland Gazette: Man sought over £2,000 'theft' from Carnforth supermarket car park Man sought over £2,000 'theft' from Carnforth supermarket car park

THE man pictured in this CCTV image has been urged to contact police over the theft of £2,000 in cash from a Carnforth car park.

A woman who was carrying the money in her pocket did not notice it fall to the ground as she got out of her car at Booths supermarket so she carried on walking into the store.

Lancashire Police said CCTV images then capture a man drive over to her car, park up, get out and pick up the money off the floor.

He is then seen briefly going into the supermarket before leaving and driving away.

The incident happened at around 6pm on December 1.

Officers investigating the theft want to speak to the man shown to try and establish the circumstances of what happened.

PC Peter Bennett, of Lancashire Police, said: “It is not thought the money was handed in at the store and so I would appeal to anyone who may have any information to come forward.

“In particular, I would be keen to speak to the man in the CCTV image as he may be able to help us trace the money.”

Information can be given to police on 101, quoting reference number BB1204456.

Alternatively, information can be passed to Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111 or online at crimestoppers-uk.org

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7:03am Wed 12 Dec 12

Moonbase says...

Not very women i know carry money in their pockets.
As for carrying 2k around that's stupid,I know Booth's is'nt the cheapest perhaps next time she goes shopping may i suggest she takes 1k and goes to Tesco.
Just a thought.
Not very women i know carry money in their pockets. As for carrying 2k around that's stupid,I know Booth's is'nt the cheapest perhaps next time she goes shopping may i suggest she takes 1k and goes to Tesco. Just a thought. Moonbase

9:21am Wed 12 Dec 12

sklanc says...

i wonder if your attitude would be different if it was your mother/ wife. sister who had accidentally dropped the money and for it to be stolen by a dishonest passer by. people sometimes have good reason for carrying large amonunts of cash that is not the point of this incident it's the mean nasty guy who stole it.
i wonder if your attitude would be different if it was your mother/ wife. sister who had accidentally dropped the money and for it to be stolen by a dishonest passer by. people sometimes have good reason for carrying large amonunts of cash that is not the point of this incident it's the mean nasty guy who stole it. sklanc

9:26am Wed 12 Dec 12

Moonbase says...

sklanc wrote:
i wonder if your attitude would be different if it was your mother/ wife. sister who had accidentally dropped the money and for it to be stolen by a dishonest passer by. people sometimes have good reason for carrying large amonunts of cash that is not the point of this incident it's the mean nasty guy who stole it.
No it would'nt.
[quote][p][bold]sklanc[/bold] wrote: i wonder if your attitude would be different if it was your mother/ wife. sister who had accidentally dropped the money and for it to be stolen by a dishonest passer by. people sometimes have good reason for carrying large amonunts of cash that is not the point of this incident it's the mean nasty guy who stole it.[/p][/quote]No it would'nt. Moonbase

1:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

tictoc1 says...

Moonbase, you always make me chuckle with your comments :-)
I wish I could carry that amount of cash in my pocket and I don't think it's very fair to say he stole it!
It fell out of her pocket, more fool her for having that amount of cash on her in the first place. And who's to say he hasn't handed it into the store and someone else has pocketed it?
Just a thought!
Moonbase, you always make me chuckle with your comments :-) I wish I could carry that amount of cash in my pocket and I don't think it's very fair to say he stole it! It fell out of her pocket, more fool her for having that amount of cash on her in the first place. And who's to say he hasn't handed it into the store and someone else has pocketed it? Just a thought! tictoc1

2:12pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Cas220 says...

It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different.
Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes.
If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character.
It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different. Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes. If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character. Cas220

5:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12

onelocal says...

Cas220 wrote:
It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different.
Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes.
If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character.
The 1968 Theft act in sections 1 and 7 talks about "Theft by Finding" which basically means if you find something you cannot keep it (finders keepers is not lawful) and have to take reasonable steps to find the owner as they still hold legal title even though they have "lost" their property. The legal grey area is over whether items have been "abandoned" or "lost" if they have been lost you have to try and find the owner. If you can PROVE that they have been abandoned you can keep them.
[quote][p][bold]Cas220[/bold] wrote: It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different. Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes. If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character.[/p][/quote]The 1968 Theft act in sections 1 and 7 talks about "Theft by Finding" which basically means if you find something you cannot keep it (finders keepers is not lawful) and have to take reasonable steps to find the owner as they still hold legal title even though they have "lost" their property. The legal grey area is over whether items have been "abandoned" or "lost" if they have been lost you have to try and find the owner. If you can PROVE that they have been abandoned you can keep them. onelocal

4:36pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Cas220 says...

onelocal wrote:
Cas220 wrote:
It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different.
Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes.
If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character.
The 1968 Theft act in sections 1 and 7 talks about "Theft by Finding" which basically means if you find something you cannot keep it (finders keepers is not lawful) and have to take reasonable steps to find the owner as they still hold legal title even though they have "lost" their property. The legal grey area is over whether items have been "abandoned" or "lost" if they have been lost you have to try and find the owner. If you can PROVE that they have been abandoned you can keep them.
Well I thought this was the case but after having checked with the Police it isn't, especially when it was found on private property.
[quote][p][bold]onelocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cas220[/bold] wrote: It's not theft, pure and simple, it's not even 'theft', if that makes it somehow different. Sorry but it seems a bit suspicious to me that the woman had £2k hanging out of her pocket outside a supermarket(a bank I could understand) in the dark, if I had cash like that it'd be in my purse and I'd be checking on it every 5 minutes. If you have LOST something then you have LOST something, that man has FOUND something - he hasn't broken any law as far as I know, you don't have to hand in money you have found in the street. To call him a thief and print his photo is defamation of character.[/p][/quote]The 1968 Theft act in sections 1 and 7 talks about "Theft by Finding" which basically means if you find something you cannot keep it (finders keepers is not lawful) and have to take reasonable steps to find the owner as they still hold legal title even though they have "lost" their property. The legal grey area is over whether items have been "abandoned" or "lost" if they have been lost you have to try and find the owner. If you can PROVE that they have been abandoned you can keep them.[/p][/quote]Well I thought this was the case but after having checked with the Police it isn't, especially when it was found on private property. Cas220

6:02pm Thu 13 Dec 12

onelocal says...

Strange. If I found your car with the doors unlocked and the key in the ignition, is it lost and have I found it, or does it only apply to money?
Strange. If I found your car with the doors unlocked and the key in the ignition, is it lost and have I found it, or does it only apply to money? onelocal

6:08pm Thu 13 Dec 12

onelocal says...

Oh and why are the police " investigating the theft"? Must be different police then.
Oh and why are the police " investigating the theft"? Must be different police then. onelocal

8:41am Fri 14 Dec 12

tictoc1 says...

onelocal wrote:
Strange. If I found your car with the doors unlocked and the key in the ignition, is it lost and have I found it, or does it only apply to money?
A car is registered to someone...cash isn't.
[quote][p][bold]onelocal[/bold] wrote: Strange. If I found your car with the doors unlocked and the key in the ignition, is it lost and have I found it, or does it only apply to money?[/p][/quote]A car is registered to someone...cash isn't. tictoc1

11:32pm Fri 14 Dec 12

sklanc says...

well I am frankly amazed by this strand of comments. To summarise , a lady between leaving her car and entering a shop has accidently dropped 2k in cash. Perhaps it was xmas club money and she had saved all year, perhaps she was elderly and had just withdrawn the cash for gifts or perhaps it was holiday money, We do not know, further more it is not relevant why she had it, presumably it was hers and held legally as she went to the police. Shortly after it was dropped, a man was seen driving towards it, he was then seen picking it up. He then was caught on camera in the shop, he obviously didnt hand it in as the police would not have been involved otherwise. The police then release his picture asking him to come forward to help eith enquries. To date he has not. Therefore there is no ambiguity or doubt, it is theft. I do not understand why the misfortunate lady has been cast as the wrong doer in this matter. Quite perplexing really.
well I am frankly amazed by this strand of comments. To summarise , a lady between leaving her car and entering a shop has accidently dropped 2k in cash. Perhaps it was xmas club money and she had saved all year, perhaps she was elderly and had just withdrawn the cash for gifts or perhaps it was holiday money, We do not know, further more it is not relevant why she had it, presumably it was hers and held legally as she went to the police. Shortly after it was dropped, a man was seen driving towards it, he was then seen picking it up. He then was caught on camera in the shop, he obviously didnt hand it in as the police would not have been involved otherwise. The police then release his picture asking him to come forward to help eith enquries. To date he has not. Therefore there is no ambiguity or doubt, it is theft. I do not understand why the misfortunate lady has been cast as the wrong doer in this matter. Quite perplexing really. sklanc

1:42pm Sat 15 Dec 12

life cycle too says...

No where does it state HE stole the money.
But it DOES say it WAS stolen - and that they wish to speak to the man to establish what happened.

It is strange that he didn't simply drive away with the money rather than hang around and even enter the store, and no doubt police will wish to ask him if he handed it over to somebody else who failed to record it's finding, rather than accuse the man.

I once handed in an item that I found, at the place I found it - only to find later that it had not been recorded, and had gone missing (I worked at the location, and knew who had lost it).

I have in the past had large sums of money on my person for a short time, and not gone straight to the bank with it - but luckily took more care of it than the poor woman who has lost this money - she may simply have been calling to make a quick purchase while on her way to bank takings from a business, so would appear to have done nothing shady!
No where does it state HE stole the money. But it DOES say it WAS stolen - and that they wish to speak to the man to establish what happened. It is strange that he didn't simply drive away with the money rather than hang around and even enter the store, and no doubt police will wish to ask him if he handed it over to somebody else who failed to record it's finding, rather than accuse the man. I once handed in an item that I found, at the place I found it - only to find later that it had not been recorded, and had gone missing (I worked at the location, and knew who had lost it). I have in the past had large sums of money on my person for a short time, and not gone straight to the bank with it - but luckily took more care of it than the poor woman who has lost this money - she may simply have been calling to make a quick purchase while on her way to bank takings from a business, so would appear to have done nothing shady! life cycle too

11:40pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Kendmoor says...

I wonder if we'll get an update on the story, there have been stories in the past which have had threads arguing all sorts of things about what readers know and don't know - take above for instance all those unanswered questions...Just wonder if it'll be another book with the last chapter pulled out! I like my stories to have an ending.
I wonder if we'll get an update on the story, there have been stories in the past which have had threads arguing all sorts of things about what readers know and don't know - take above for instance all those unanswered questions...Just wonder if it'll be another book with the last chapter pulled out! I like my stories to have an ending. Kendmoor

4:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12

848848 says...

So lets get silly...
Your in Booths car park and you see a person discard a kit kat wrapper and it floats to the ground. I notice your scant disregard for the environment and move to pick it up and place it in my pocket with the intention to dispose of it into a waste paper bin at the local tip.
It now appears I have become a thief as the wrapper is your property, you own it and I have no right to it.
Silly point for most .... but the detrimental value to the environment from the red kit kat wrapper is worth more than the money missing here as it was picked up by someone. I see too many dispose of their wrappers whilst I'm out and about enjoying the fresh air while it lasts...
Hopefully this man can shine light on the missing money for the unfortunate rightful owner but he is not a thief and the spokesperson has not accused him of being one... yet.
publishing the photograph is not correct as the suspect is just a suspect and good Police evidence gathering is needed to bring this to a conclusion.
So lets get silly... Your in Booths car park and you see a person discard a kit kat wrapper and it floats to the ground. I notice your scant disregard for the environment and move to pick it up and place it in my pocket with the intention to dispose of it into a waste paper bin at the local tip. It now appears I have become a thief as the wrapper is your property, you own it and I have no right to it. Silly point for most .... but the detrimental value to the environment from the red kit kat wrapper is worth more than the money missing here as it was picked up by someone. I see too many dispose of their wrappers whilst I'm out and about enjoying the fresh air while it lasts... Hopefully this man can shine light on the missing money for the unfortunate rightful owner but he is not a thief and the spokesperson has not accused him of being one... yet. publishing the photograph is not correct as the suspect is just a suspect and good Police evidence gathering is needed to bring this to a conclusion. 848848

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