Lancashire's 20mph speed limit decision at ‘Time for 20’ conference

LANCASHIRE’s pioneering decision to bring in 20mph speed limits in all residential areas will be highlighted at a major road safety conference in London next year.

The high-profile event will discuss new evidence that lower limits boost walking and cycling, improving public health as well as cutting road deaths and injuries.

Lancashire County Council - which covers Pendle, Hyndburn, Burnley, Ribble Valley, Rossendale and Chorley - was the first county to introduce the lower limit across all residential streets.

Rod King, founder of the national ‘20’s Plenty for Us’ campaign, will praise its foresight and urge other authorities, including Blackburn with Darwen, to follow suit.

He will host the ‘Time for 20’ conference on February 18 in Camden to discuss a policy paper prepared by the respected Local Government Information Unit.

Its research ‘Area-wide 20mph neighbourhoods: A win, win, win for local authorities’ recommends all councils implement residential 20mph limits.

It highlights public health benefits as reducing road danger through slower speeds is key to promoting active travel by walking and cycling.

The briefing says councils must get people to move and become fitter to combat avoidable deaths through lack of activity.

It highlights statistics showing there was over 20 per cent more walking and cycling in 20mph limit areas in Bristol.

This makes 20mph limits the single most cost effective measure to raise exercise levels and defuse the UK’s ‘inactivity time bomb’.

Mr King said: “This briefing saying area wide 20mph limits are a win is excellent.

“At the conference, I shall highlight Lancashire and appeal for other authorities such as Blackburn with Darwen to move now towards sign-only 20mph zones. They will have to eventually.

“Progressive authorities see lower urban speeds as key to making walking and cycling attractive.”

Blackburn with Darwen Liberal Democrat group leader David Foster said: “How much more evidence does the council need?”

Borough highways chief Maureen Bateson said: “We are running a pilot 20mph sign-only zone in Mill Hill. We are very aware of road safety and target measures on the areas of greatest need.”

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10:42am Sat 14 Dec 13

bishbut says...

20 mph limits are welcome but who is policing them because most drivers do not care about them or eve n do not know
20 mph limits are welcome but who is policing them because most drivers do not care about them or eve n do not know bishbut

10:58am Sat 14 Dec 13

glady1976 says...

Exactly I live in a 20 mph zone and no one adheres to the speed limit so you might aswell put 40 mph sign's up it would be more accurate for the car's in my area.
Exactly I live in a 20 mph zone and no one adheres to the speed limit so you might aswell put 40 mph sign's up it would be more accurate for the car's in my area. glady1976

11:30am Sat 14 Dec 13

travel happy wanderer says...

A good idea but not workable no one to police it they don't come for burglaries so they will not catch speeders. I live on a dead end narrow rd in a village cars parked on both sides and they fly past at 40/50 Mph.
A good idea but not workable no one to police it they don't come for burglaries so they will not catch speeders. I live on a dead end narrow rd in a village cars parked on both sides and they fly past at 40/50 Mph. travel happy wanderer

11:34am Sat 14 Dec 13

HarryBosch says...

I agree with residential speed limits of 20mph as a way of reducing injuries, especially to children, in residential areas. However I am sceptical about claims that this measure is responsible for getting more people out walking and I would really like to see what credible evidence there is to support this claim.
And can someone please clarify what "sign-only 20mph" limits means.
I agree with residential speed limits of 20mph as a way of reducing injuries, especially to children, in residential areas. However I am sceptical about claims that this measure is responsible for getting more people out walking and I would really like to see what credible evidence there is to support this claim. And can someone please clarify what "sign-only 20mph" limits means. HarryBosch

12:19pm Sat 14 Dec 13

DaveBurnley says...

Try slowing the taxis down if you can. They have a different set of rules to other road users.
Try slowing the taxis down if you can. They have a different set of rules to other road users. DaveBurnley

12:51pm Sat 14 Dec 13

burner says...

ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ????????????????????
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ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ???????????????????? ??????? burner

12:57pm Sat 14 Dec 13

HarryBosch says...

burner wrote:
ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ????????????????????

???????
That's why I asked for someone with a factual knowledge to explain what "sign only 20mph" limit means!
Call me a fool if I'm wrong but sign only says to me - non enforceable!
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ???????????????????? ???????[/p][/quote]That's why I asked for someone with a factual knowledge to explain what "sign only 20mph" limit means! Call me a fool if I'm wrong but sign only says to me - non enforceable! HarryBosch

2:26pm Sat 14 Dec 13

rodtrail says...

waste of time even though a good idea most cyclists do not stick to the rules of the road only last fri i nearly got knocked down by a cyclist in kendal going the wrong way in the one way street i should have put my stick in his spokes but i would be the wrong one then
waste of time even though a good idea most cyclists do not stick to the rules of the road only last fri i nearly got knocked down by a cyclist in kendal going the wrong way in the one way street i should have put my stick in his spokes but i would be the wrong one then rodtrail

2:57pm Sat 14 Dec 13

timeforcommonsense says...

Waste of time and money. The only people these speed limits slow down are those who stick to the speed limits, some 20 something year old with a baseball cap cutting of the blood supply to their brain, will still try to reach mach1, regardless of car driven or length of street. I live on a 20mph limit that is about a quarter of a mile long, it doesn't stop people accelerating from one end of the road until they reach their destination/turning. Some cars pass my house at what seems like we'll over 40mph. There is also a line of thinking that pedestrians become more complacent in these 20mph zones and relax their attitudes to road safety.
Waste of time and money. The only people these speed limits slow down are those who stick to the speed limits, some 20 something year old with a baseball cap cutting of the blood supply to their brain, will still try to reach mach1, regardless of car driven or length of street. I live on a 20mph limit that is about a quarter of a mile long, it doesn't stop people accelerating from one end of the road until they reach their destination/turning. Some cars pass my house at what seems like we'll over 40mph. There is also a line of thinking that pedestrians become more complacent in these 20mph zones and relax their attitudes to road safety. timeforcommonsense

3:11pm Sat 14 Dec 13

frank says...

DaveBurnley wrote:
Try slowing the taxis down if you can. They have a different set of rules to other road users.
we were driven at 50 in a 30 zone in a taxi recently, needless to say we never used them again.
[quote][p][bold]DaveBurnley[/bold] wrote: Try slowing the taxis down if you can. They have a different set of rules to other road users.[/p][/quote]we were driven at 50 in a 30 zone in a taxi recently, needless to say we never used them again. frank

5:03pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Wishingwell says...

20mph won't make any difference to those that.drive irresponsibly already. What we need.is better Policing.get those city taxis felt with.
20mph won't make any difference to those that.drive irresponsibly already. What we need.is better Policing.get those city taxis felt with. Wishingwell

6:56pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Graham Hartley says...

The speed of a vehicle or vehicles in collision is only one variable to consider. Momentum, momentum transfer and impulse are important others. It is of course entirely possible that two or more vehicles can have different momentum though their speed is the same. The angular momentum in the spinning wheels of vehicles is an oft-neglected factor. If it is to inform us better, an analysis of collisions must consider rather more than speed.
The speed of a vehicle or vehicles in collision is only one variable to consider. Momentum, momentum transfer and impulse are important others. It is of course entirely possible that two or more vehicles can have different momentum though their speed is the same. The angular momentum in the spinning wheels of vehicles is an oft-neglected factor. If it is to inform us better, an analysis of collisions must consider rather more than speed. Graham Hartley

8:18pm Sat 14 Dec 13

JayEss says...

rodtrail wrote:
waste of time even though a good idea most cyclists do not stick to the rules of the road only last fri i nearly got knocked down by a cyclist in kendal going the wrong way in the one way street i should have put my stick in his spokes but i would be the wrong one then
Some one way streets are two way for cyclists. Same as for pedestrians.
Also, if you really think that the danger on our roads is caused by cyclists then you're just wrong. Completely wrong.

Slowing down motor traffic will absolutely make areas safer. 20mph limits will only work if they actually slow people down.
[quote][p][bold]rodtrail[/bold] wrote: waste of time even though a good idea most cyclists do not stick to the rules of the road only last fri i nearly got knocked down by a cyclist in kendal going the wrong way in the one way street i should have put my stick in his spokes but i would be the wrong one then[/p][/quote]Some one way streets are two way for cyclists. Same as for pedestrians. Also, if you really think that the danger on our roads is caused by cyclists then you're just wrong. Completely wrong. Slowing down motor traffic will absolutely make areas safer. 20mph limits will only work if they actually slow people down. JayEss

12:05am Sun 15 Dec 13

retsofad says...

We campaigned for years for a 20mph in our area. Now we have got it only some drivers take any notice of the signs.
unless the 20MPH is policed it won't do a bit of good to reduce the speed of traffic. To say it makes more people walk and cycle is a load of rubbish we have drivers who drive the length of the street just to pick up a paper and a bottle of milk
Mind you Councillors and MP's will say anything to justify spending the tax payers hard earned cash.
We campaigned for years for a 20mph in our area. Now we have got it only some drivers take any notice of the signs. unless the 20MPH is policed it won't do a bit of good to reduce the speed of traffic. To say it makes more people walk and cycle is a load of rubbish we have drivers who drive the length of the street just to pick up a paper and a bottle of milk Mind you Councillors and MP's will say anything to justify spending the tax payers hard earned cash. retsofad

10:02am Sun 15 Dec 13

Noiticer says...

Rules have to be based on common sense and whilst the 20mph rule would appear to be based on it sadly, in practice, I think most motorists will simply ignore it because driving at 20mph feels ridiculously and frustratingly slow compared to 30mph.
Rules have to be based on common sense and whilst the 20mph rule would appear to be based on it sadly, in practice, I think most motorists will simply ignore it because driving at 20mph feels ridiculously and frustratingly slow compared to 30mph. Noiticer

3:10pm Sun 15 Dec 13

vicn1956 says...

Pass all the rules you like and put up 1,000's of signs. Some people will ignore it all!
What's the point of a law if it's not policed + acted on?
Pass all the rules you like and put up 1,000's of signs. Some people will ignore it all! What's the point of a law if it's not policed + acted on? vicn1956

7:57pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Grumpyoldbiker says...

Forget it. It causes more trouble when you slow down to 20mph. You just get tailgated. My road is a 20mph and they fly past at 40+. I have tried to reason with some people saying, "How would you like it if I drove down your street at that speed when your kiddies are out playing". But the look is empty and ignorant. Better spending the money on filling in the pot holes.
Forget it. It causes more trouble when you slow down to 20mph. You just get tailgated. My road is a 20mph and they fly past at 40+. I have tried to reason with some people saying, "How would you like it if I drove down your street at that speed when your kiddies are out playing". But the look is empty and ignorant. Better spending the money on filling in the pot holes. Grumpyoldbiker

4:17pm Mon 16 Dec 13

WilmarSmiley says...

HarryBosch wrote:
burner wrote:
ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ????????????????????


???????
That's why I asked for someone with a factual knowledge to explain what "sign only 20mph" limit means!
Call me a fool if I'm wrong but sign only says to me - non enforceable!
"20mph speed limits indicated by signs on their own are being introduced on many residential streets across York over the next couple of years. Signed only speed limits are considerably cheaper than the traditional 20mph zones with their associated traffic calming, such as speed humps."

Further information at:-
http://www.york20mph
.org/
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: ENFORCEMENT . . . . . . . . ???????????????????? ???????[/p][/quote]That's why I asked for someone with a factual knowledge to explain what "sign only 20mph" limit means! Call me a fool if I'm wrong but sign only says to me - non enforceable![/p][/quote]"20mph speed limits indicated by signs on their own are being introduced on many residential streets across York over the next couple of years. Signed only speed limits are considerably cheaper than the traditional 20mph zones with their associated traffic calming, such as speed humps." Further information at:- http://www.york20mph .org/ WilmarSmiley

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