Kendal granddad slams passport delays leaving his daughter and granddaughter stuck in France

The Westmorland Gazette: Bill and Eileen Angus Bill and Eileen Angus

A KENDAL granddad has hit out at the ‘indifferent bureaucracy’ which has left him unable to see his granddaughter in the first six weeks of her life.
 

Bill Angus’ daughter Jane is in the south of France and cannot get to England until her new baby Freya gets a passport.
 

The family have now been waiting more than six weeks – longer than the three to six week period stated by the embassy.
 

Jane has lived in Menton, France, for 10 years but Bill says the home she shares with her husband Elliott is too small for him to visit.
 

“It’s very stressful from a grandparent’s point of view,” said Bill.
 

“Jane’s perfectly capable of looking after herself and the baby but things can go wrong in those early days and you’ve got to have your family close by.

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“I’m angry because we can’t enjoy the first few weeks of the baby’s life and we can’t be on hand to reduce the stress on our daughter.”
 

Bill faced a similar situation when Jane was born and they visited his wife Eileen’s family in Australia.
 

“We put her on my wife’s passport which was perfectly convenient.
 

“It used to be possible as well to 'fast-track' an application by going in person to the nearest consulate or embassy - not any more.
 

“All overseas applications now must be handled by a central office in the UK.
 

“It’s mystifying why it has been so difficult and why the service for getting passports has deteriorated so much.”

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1:31pm Fri 11 Apr 14

hemyfan says...

I thought in Eu passports weren't needed.
I thought in Eu passports weren't needed. hemyfan
  • Score: -7

1:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

hemyfan says...

I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries.
I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries. hemyfan
  • Score: -8

2:08pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Pringle1982 says...

Nope, you definitely need a passport to go abroad, even for EU.
Nope, you definitely need a passport to go abroad, even for EU. Pringle1982
  • Score: 8

3:22pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Boathow says...

The new procedures are in place to stop passports being issued to possible terrorists, as has been happening over the past few years in certain countries.
The new procedures are in place to stop passports being issued to possible terrorists, as has been happening over the past few years in certain countries. Boathow
  • Score: 6

6:14pm Fri 11 Apr 14

ab oatman says...

Don't they have hotels in France?
Wouldn't most people go out there and book some accommodation rather than expect a newborn baby to fly over here?
If my daughter needed help I would go to her rather than wait for her to come to me.
Don't they have hotels in France? Wouldn't most people go out there and book some accommodation rather than expect a newborn baby to fly over here? If my daughter needed help I would go to her rather than wait for her to come to me. ab oatman
  • Score: 46

9:40pm Fri 11 Apr 14

onelocal says...

hemyfan wrote:
I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries.
Passports are not required for travel between many of the EU countries, under the Schengen Agreement, intended to create a European Union without borders. Unfortunately the United Kingdom opted out of the Schengen Agreement, meaning that passports are required for UK citizens to enter the Schengen territory and to enter the UK.
[quote][p][bold]hemyfan[/bold] wrote: I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries.[/p][/quote]Passports are not required for travel between many of the EU countries, under the Schengen Agreement, intended to create a European Union without borders. Unfortunately the United Kingdom opted out of the Schengen Agreement, meaning that passports are required for UK citizens to enter the Schengen territory and to enter the UK. onelocal
  • Score: 8

10:31pm Fri 11 Apr 14

shirtbox says...

The daughter should go to the nearest british consul office the local marie will give them details,or failing this get a French identity card for the child then it can travel on this.
The daughter should go to the nearest british consul office the local marie will give them details,or failing this get a French identity card for the child then it can travel on this. shirtbox
  • Score: 0

11:10am Sat 12 Apr 14

Gingery says...

onelocal wrote:
hemyfan wrote:
I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries.
Passports are not required for travel between many of the EU countries, under the Schengen Agreement, intended to create a European Union without borders. Unfortunately the United Kingdom opted out of the Schengen Agreement, meaning that passports are required for UK citizens to enter the Schengen territory and to enter the UK.
I think most EU citizens carry ID cards(?) which are used in lieu of passports, and acceptable under the Schengen Agreement. As onelocal writes the UK decided to opt out of this scheme. Possibly one instance where being 'in' Europe could be beneficial, but we mostly aren't interested.
[quote][p][bold]onelocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hemyfan[/bold] wrote: I thought passports weren't necessary between eu countries.[/p][/quote]Passports are not required for travel between many of the EU countries, under the Schengen Agreement, intended to create a European Union without borders. Unfortunately the United Kingdom opted out of the Schengen Agreement, meaning that passports are required for UK citizens to enter the Schengen territory and to enter the UK.[/p][/quote]I think most EU citizens carry ID cards(?) which are used in lieu of passports, and acceptable under the Schengen Agreement. As onelocal writes the UK decided to opt out of this scheme. Possibly one instance where being 'in' Europe could be beneficial, but we mostly aren't interested. Gingery
  • Score: 0

2:35pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Stargazeratdawn says...

I have to agree with an earlier comment. If that was my daughter or grand daughter I'd be out there like a shot. I know many babies do travel in their first weeks of life but, isn't less stressful for the mother and baby not to have to travel so soon? Who am I to judge, and I certainly don't know all of their personal circumstances but, I can't help but sense it's the easy option here..If hotels aren't an option then, guest houses? Contact the local mayor to see if anyone can put them up for a few weeks.
I have to agree with an earlier comment. If that was my daughter or grand daughter I'd be out there like a shot. I know many babies do travel in their first weeks of life but, isn't less stressful for the mother and baby not to have to travel so soon? Who am I to judge, and I certainly don't know all of their personal circumstances but, I can't help but sense it's the easy option here..If hotels aren't an option then, guest houses? Contact the local mayor to see if anyone can put them up for a few weeks. Stargazeratdawn
  • Score: 2

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