Grange lido plan is 'pie in the sky' says councillor

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PROPOSALS to re-open an historic lido have been branded ‘pie in the sky’ by a South Lakeland councillor.

Andrew Gardiner, district representative for Grange North, believes re-opening the town’s outdoor pool will ‘not be sustainable’ and has called for it to be stripped of its Grade II listed status to make it easier to develop.

“It is a wonderful idea to re-open the lido,” he said.

“I like the ideas to re-open it as a cafe or a museum for people to see the history of Grange.

“But to re-open it as a pool is pie in the sky.

“We need to come back down to Earth and think practically about this, or it will crumble and there won’t be anything left to develop.”

The lido, which is located on Grange’s Edwardian promenade, enjoyed its heyday in the 1930s. It was closed in 1993 and was given listed status two years ago, according to Coun Gardiner.

A consultation was held last year where residents voted to have the structure reopened as an outdoor swimming pool.

But Coun Gardiner has called for an investigation to be launched into whether the building can be stripped of its classification so that it can be more easily developed into something else.

“I like to see things happen,” he said. “I raised the question with the council and I’m still waiting for an answer as to whether we’ve left it too long to get it de-listed.”

If the building is de-listed it will not be eligible for English Heritage funding.

But Coun Gardiner added that there has only been ‘one decent summer in the last seven years’ that would merit an outdoor pool.

“There have been some great ideas proposed so we need to be looking at those,” he added.

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10:19am Fri 2 May 14

blade stall says...

If you added up all the money and hot air spent 'consulting' on this job and spent it on boots on the ground this lido would be half built by now. Ok it may not be 'sustainable' but get on with it, reach for the stars and stop **** footing about.
If you added up all the money and hot air spent 'consulting' on this job and spent it on boots on the ground this lido would be half built by now. Ok it may not be 'sustainable' but get on with it, reach for the stars and stop **** footing about. blade stall
  • Score: 5

4:35pm Fri 2 May 14

darrenmilby says...

Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange.
Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange. darrenmilby
  • Score: 5

6:15pm Fri 2 May 14

hogheaven says...

darrenmilby wrote:
Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange.
It just would not work even if it was heated there are already several pools in various Hotels which can be used by the public. The population in grange is i think 60% over the age of 65, there is just not enough population to use it,it will be another white elephant.London Fields Lido has probably the population of Cumbria living next door to it, sorry its a no go.
[quote][p][bold]darrenmilby[/bold] wrote: Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange.[/p][/quote]It just would not work even if it was heated there are already several pools in various Hotels which can be used by the public. The population in grange is i think 60% over the age of 65, there is just not enough population to use it,it will be another white elephant.London Fields Lido has probably the population of Cumbria living next door to it, sorry its a no go. hogheaven
  • Score: 4

6:34pm Fri 2 May 14

darrenmilby says...

hogheaven wrote:
darrenmilby wrote:
Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange.
It just would not work even if it was heated there are already several pools in various Hotels which can be used by the public. The population in grange is i think 60% over the age of 65, there is just not enough population to use it,it will be another white elephant.London Fields Lido has probably the population of Cumbria living next door to it, sorry its a no go.
I agree economically it will be a massive challenge and if done right as a multi purpose venue with perhaps performance space and retail areas for cafes/ restaurants ect it could attract from a much lager catchment area than just Grange . Maybe I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses I just feel it would be such a unique attraction befitting a beautiful town like Grange.
[quote][p][bold]hogheaven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darrenmilby[/bold] wrote: Turn it into a museum? What a shame if an iconic building such as this was turned into a dull museum. Councillors need to look at other functioning lidos to see how they can work. If the water is heated it can open all year round like London Fields Lido which is an extremely popular facility. A restored Lido would be a massive draw for Grange.[/p][/quote]It just would not work even if it was heated there are already several pools in various Hotels which can be used by the public. The population in grange is i think 60% over the age of 65, there is just not enough population to use it,it will be another white elephant.London Fields Lido has probably the population of Cumbria living next door to it, sorry its a no go.[/p][/quote]I agree economically it will be a massive challenge and if done right as a multi purpose venue with perhaps performance space and retail areas for cafes/ restaurants ect it could attract from a much lager catchment area than just Grange . Maybe I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses I just feel it would be such a unique attraction befitting a beautiful town like Grange. darrenmilby
  • Score: -1

6:47pm Fri 2 May 14

hogheaven says...

We already have a nice cafe by the Lido,but another problem is that you would only be able to access the Lido ,what ever you make it into on foot, which would be awkward for a lot of people. I would dearly like to see something made of it but what. Maybe if they dredged the bay so that we could have water access..............
.................. who knows. or just rename Grange over sands to Grange over grass,are the council falling foul of the trades description act? :-)
We already have a nice cafe by the Lido,but another problem is that you would only be able to access the Lido ,what ever you make it into on foot, which would be awkward for a lot of people. I would dearly like to see something made of it but what. Maybe if they dredged the bay so that we could have water access.............. .................. who knows. or just rename Grange over sands to Grange over grass,are the council falling foul of the trades description act? :-) hogheaven
  • Score: 2

6:47pm Fri 2 May 14

hogheaven says...

We already have a nice cafe by the Lido,but another problem is that you would only be able to access the Lido ,what ever you make it into on foot, which would be awkward for a lot of people. I would dearly like to see something made of it but what. Maybe if they dredged the bay so that we could have water access..............
.................. who knows. or just rename Grange over sands to Grange over grass,are the council falling foul of the trades description act? :-)
We already have a nice cafe by the Lido,but another problem is that you would only be able to access the Lido ,what ever you make it into on foot, which would be awkward for a lot of people. I would dearly like to see something made of it but what. Maybe if they dredged the bay so that we could have water access.............. .................. who knows. or just rename Grange over sands to Grange over grass,are the council falling foul of the trades description act? :-) hogheaven
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Fri 2 May 14

darrenmilby says...

Very good points about the cafe and access. It's tricky as it's such a beautiful part of the town that is spoiled by a derelict swimming pool. Whether it is restored or demolished something needs to happen soon. I would love to see it returned to original use but if that not possible then we need to get on with something else. It's been lying empty for 20 years
Very good points about the cafe and access. It's tricky as it's such a beautiful part of the town that is spoiled by a derelict swimming pool. Whether it is restored or demolished something needs to happen soon. I would love to see it returned to original use but if that not possible then we need to get on with something else. It's been lying empty for 20 years darrenmilby
  • Score: 3

7:28pm Fri 2 May 14

hogheaven says...

My sentiments entirely darrenmilby
My sentiments entirely darrenmilby hogheaven
  • Score: 2

10:23am Sat 3 May 14

dancer58 says...

Flatten it, patio it ,railings around it , sitting areas , it then will be used a lot more than a lido , possibly a bit cheaper to , a great view to
Flatten it, patio it ,railings around it , sitting areas , it then will be used a lot more than a lido , possibly a bit cheaper to , a great view to dancer58
  • Score: 1

7:22pm Sat 3 May 14

shirtbox says...

Perhaps if the council hadn't already had one lottery grant for the ill fated berners pool on which they lost £3.2 million and not recovered a penny from the architects or builders and then paid £100,000 to demolish it and then sold a prime building site with a value of £1 -£2 million for £1 then they could be in with a chance.lol.Clown Hall.
Perhaps if the council hadn't already had one lottery grant for the ill fated berners pool on which they lost £3.2 million and not recovered a penny from the architects or builders and then paid £100,000 to demolish it and then sold a prime building site with a value of £1 -£2 million for £1 then they could be in with a chance.lol.Clown Hall. shirtbox
  • Score: 3

7:25pm Sat 3 May 14

hogheaven says...

Shirtbox you are so right at least the SLDC is consistent in there ability to fail
Shirtbox you are so right at least the SLDC is consistent in there ability to fail hogheaven
  • Score: 1

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