Pupils over 16 lose free bus places

The Westmorland Gazette: Pupils over 16 lose free bus places Pupils over 16 lose free bus places

PUPILS over the age of 16 are to lose free school bus journeys as cash-strapped Cumbria County Council seeks to slash £1m from its budget.

From September, subsidised bus routes will only be available to students from low-income families.

Council officials are urging parents to talk to their education provider to see whether they will provide transport or if they have to make their own arrangements.

“We have been having a very productive dialogue with schools and colleges to explore the potential for them to provide alternative, sustainable solutions,” said Coun Keith Little, cabinet member for transport.

“We are working hard to ensure that they can use any slack in the existing system to their advantage.”

The county council will make spare seats on its contracted routes available to schools and colleges to purchase on behalf of their students, at £360 a student.

The scheme will be phased in so students moving into Year 13 in September will still be offered subsidised transport – last year it stood at about £1,114 per pupil.

It is part of a wide range of plans being passed by the authority as it bids to make £24 million in savings this year.

Details at cumbria.gov.uk/schooltransport.

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8:45am Wed 28 May 14

drixhen says...

If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S drixhen
  • Score: -6

1:13pm Wed 28 May 14

tictoc1 says...

drixhen wrote:
If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us!
[quote][p][bold]drixhen[/bold] wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S[/p][/quote]Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us! tictoc1
  • Score: 5

1:29pm Wed 28 May 14

Canucks76 says...

I know I'm going to take a bashing for this one, but as the mother of a 16-yr-old, I have to write this. Why is it that our young people, just starting out on their lives, have to take the brunt of this? Is there any reason why we can't spread the pain across the other end of the spectrum and have our seniors pay a subsidised rate for travel? I just don't understand this elitist, backwards-looking attitude to our youth; no wonder they don't want to stick around.
I know I'm going to take a bashing for this one, but as the mother of a 16-yr-old, I have to write this. Why is it that our young people, just starting out on their lives, have to take the brunt of this? Is there any reason why we can't spread the pain across the other end of the spectrum and have our seniors pay a subsidised rate for travel? I just don't understand this elitist, backwards-looking attitude to our youth; no wonder they don't want to stick around. Canucks76
  • Score: 13

2:05pm Fri 30 May 14

Ambience says...

When I was a teenager I had to find my own way to school, and my family had to pay my fares. Why should children who opt to stay on at school after 16 have their fares paid for by taxpayers? There has to come a point where parents have to be responsible for their children's educational expenses.
When I was a teenager I had to find my own way to school, and my family had to pay my fares. Why should children who opt to stay on at school after 16 have their fares paid for by taxpayers? There has to come a point where parents have to be responsible for their children's educational expenses. Ambience
  • Score: 4

3:28pm Fri 30 May 14

Keeping_it_real says...

tictoc1 wrote:
drixhen wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us!
It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school, of god forbid, cycle to school!!
[quote][p][bold]tictoc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drixhen[/bold] wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S[/p][/quote]Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us![/p][/quote]It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then [bold]you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school[/bold], of god forbid, cycle to school!! Keeping_it_real
  • Score: -7

3:29pm Fri 30 May 14

Keeping_it_real says...

Free, Free, Free, Take, Take, Take....
Free, Free, Free, Take, Take, Take.... Keeping_it_real
  • Score: -2

4:20pm Fri 30 May 14

tictoc1 says...

Keeping_it_real wrote:
tictoc1 wrote:
drixhen wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us!
It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school, of god forbid, cycle to school!!
And if it wan't that persons choice? For example, a single parent, left an abusive relationship, had to take the first council house offered to them? Work 4 part time jobs to make ends meet?
I DO understand and take on board your comments, but not everything is black and white and not everything comes down to take, take, take, free, free, free!
[quote][p][bold]Keeping_it_real[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tictoc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drixhen[/bold] wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S[/p][/quote]Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us![/p][/quote]It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then [bold]you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school[/bold], of god forbid, cycle to school!![/p][/quote]And if it wan't that persons choice? For example, a single parent, left an abusive relationship, had to take the first council house offered to them? Work 4 part time jobs to make ends meet? I DO understand and take on board your comments, but not everything is black and white and not everything comes down to take, take, take, free, free, free! tictoc1
  • Score: 8

5:07pm Fri 30 May 14

Keeping_it_real says...

tictoc1 wrote:
Keeping_it_real wrote:
tictoc1 wrote:
drixhen wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us!
It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school, of god forbid, cycle to school!!
And if it wan't that persons choice? For example, a single parent, left an abusive relationship, had to take the first council house offered to them? Work 4 part time jobs to make ends meet? I DO understand and take on board your comments, but not everything is black and white and not everything comes down to take, take, take, free, free, free!
I'm not sure if your post is a general example or your particular circumstances, either way it's not a good situation and I'm sorry it has happened, but in your post you say "take the first council house offered..." again suggesting it’s the Councils fault for offering you a house in the sticks.

I disagree with many of the Councils policy’s but it seems the Council has become the scapegoat for peoples own personal pressures.

I am sorry if I sound like an old moaner, but I come from a background where there was no welfare system. Yes, there was a council but they were responsible for public affairs, not individual family affairs. I lived 19 miles away from school and I caught the bus to school, but it certainly wasn’t free at any age, my parents had to buy a term school ticket.
[quote][p][bold]tictoc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keeping_it_real[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tictoc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drixhen[/bold] wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S[/p][/quote]Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us![/p][/quote]It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then [bold]you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school[/bold], of god forbid, cycle to school!![/p][/quote]And if it wan't that persons choice? For example, a single parent, left an abusive relationship, had to take the first council house offered to them? Work 4 part time jobs to make ends meet? I DO understand and take on board your comments, but not everything is black and white and not everything comes down to take, take, take, free, free, free![/p][/quote]I'm not sure if your post is a general example or your particular circumstances, either way it's not a good situation and I'm sorry it has happened, but in your post you say "take the first council house offered..." again suggesting it’s the Councils fault for offering you a house in the sticks. I disagree with many of the Councils policy’s but it seems the Council has become the scapegoat for peoples own personal pressures. I am sorry if I sound like an old moaner, but I come from a background where there was no welfare system. Yes, there was a council but they were responsible for public affairs, not individual family affairs. I lived 19 miles away from school and I caught the bus to school, but it certainly wasn’t free at any age, my parents had to buy a term school ticket. Keeping_it_real
  • Score: 3

7:14pm Sat 31 May 14

PropMeUpWithTeabags says...

I think the issue here is that the sixth form and college used to be a choice. Next year all 16 year olds will be required to be in some sort of education or training and to take the buses away is crazy. If going to college or further education was a choice you had made then I whole heartedly agree that the subsidies should go.
I think the issue here is that the sixth form and college used to be a choice. Next year all 16 year olds will be required to be in some sort of education or training and to take the buses away is crazy. If going to college or further education was a choice you had made then I whole heartedly agree that the subsidies should go. PropMeUpWithTeabags
  • Score: 3

10:22am Mon 2 Jun 14

Kirsty_123 says...

Keeping_it_real wrote:
tictoc1 wrote:
drixhen wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S
Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us!
It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school, of god forbid, cycle to school!!
Staveley is hardly 'in the sticks' now is it! It's only 3 miles from WIndermere and Kendal.
[quote][p][bold]Keeping_it_real[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tictoc1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drixhen[/bold] wrote: If the students went to more local schools nearer to the area they live there would be no need to ship them in on tax payers subsidised transport e.g Kirkby Lonsdale Q.E.S[/p][/quote]Which secondary schools would you suggest for Grayrigg or Staveley? It's at least 5 miles to the nearest secondary school from us![/p][/quote]It's your choice to live in Grayrigg or Staveley or any other rural town, not the councils or the schools. If you live on the outskirts then [bold]you should be prepared to take your children or pay for your children to get to school[/bold], of god forbid, cycle to school!![/p][/quote]Staveley is hardly 'in the sticks' now is it! It's only 3 miles from WIndermere and Kendal. Kirsty_123
  • Score: -3

10:40am Mon 2 Jun 14

greenbell says...

Canucks76 wrote:
I know I'm going to take a bashing for this one, but as the mother of a 16-yr-old, I have to write this. Why is it that our young people, just starting out on their lives, have to take the brunt of this? Is there any reason why we can't spread the pain across the other end of the spectrum and have our seniors pay a subsidised rate for travel? I just don't understand this elitist, backwards-looking attitude to our youth; no wonder they don't want to stick around.
Why should pensioners have to pay. We have contributed via our taxes all our working lives, students have paid nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Canucks76[/bold] wrote: I know I'm going to take a bashing for this one, but as the mother of a 16-yr-old, I have to write this. Why is it that our young people, just starting out on their lives, have to take the brunt of this? Is there any reason why we can't spread the pain across the other end of the spectrum and have our seniors pay a subsidised rate for travel? I just don't understand this elitist, backwards-looking attitude to our youth; no wonder they don't want to stick around.[/p][/quote]Why should pensioners have to pay. We have contributed via our taxes all our working lives, students have paid nothing. greenbell
  • Score: -2

7:37pm Mon 2 Jun 14

JBean2 says...

It would be a start if there was a bus service my children could use to get in to Kendal to go to school, never mind a subsidised one!
It would be a start if there was a bus service my children could use to get in to Kendal to go to school, never mind a subsidised one! JBean2
  • Score: 4

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