Letter: Visitors must show greater consideration

Visitors must show greater consideration I wish to express my anger and frustration at the lack of thought and respect holiday makers have for locals that live here!

Don't get me wrong. We are totally aware of the huge tourist economy here.

We all appreciate the trials and tribulations that come with living in one of the most beautiful places in the country. On the most part, we are patient and understanding of the loitering tourist who ambles down the centre of the road without ever looking behind them, even though there is a perfectly suitable pavement on either side of the road.

We smile and give a courtesy nod when they suddenly brake in their cars to take in a breathtaking view and wave us on. We're even happy to help struggling walkers kitted out in their finest designer gear that has only just come out of their equally designer carrier bag with a map that they don't know how to read but they were told that it was a must for a day out on the fells!

We don't mind any of that. But what we DO mind is the total lack of respect that holiday makers have for those of us who live here 24/7.

We live in a small residential area. A cul de sac of seven houses. Clearly marked at the road end is a ‘Private Road’ sign. Yet people still think it is ok to turn round in what is clearly an extremely awkward and dangerous road end.

Several times I have driven out of my driveway to be confronted by some lost soul who has managed to wedge his car at the turning to our estate. On numerous occasions alien cars have found it perfectly acceptable to fully land on our driveway and that of our neighbours to turn round. Once we arrived home from shopping to find some enormous 4x4 actually parked in the drive with its passengers looking bemused at a map!

Having lived in several parts of the country, this is the only place I have ever come across that visitors have a total disregard for local people. A perfect example is that of the evening of the Olympic Torch - a momentous occasion, where local people worked hard to make it a truly memorable event.

Park and rides were set up everywhere. Shuttle buses ferryied people to and fro, but we still had to put up with people parking and blocking our road end.

When one ‘gentleman’ abandoned his car where it was totally inappropriate and was politely told that he couldn't park it there he stormed off, rudely saying he was parking it there to watch the event and that was that.

Presumably this is because he didn't want to pay for parking, whereas locals we have to pay all the time, even though we live here.

There is always a stream of cars parked on double yellow lines outside the local fish and chip shop, yet there is an enormous car park not 50 yards away. This constantly causes problems.

We all want the tourist industry to thrive and for holiday makers to enjoy their short time here and to love the place we, as locals, are fortunate enough to have all year round. But we would also appreciate just a little consideration from them.

I'm sure this wouldn't be tolerated by them if the shoe was on the other foot!

  • Elaine Jakins, Bowness

Comments(16)

snuggle-bunny says...
5:24pm Mon 2 Jul 12

You could allways move house

Ladyxxmacbeth says...
6:50pm Thu 5 Jul 12

well you can swap houses with me...I dont mind, in fact why doesnt your road rent out their parking spaces to tourists.

zaney5 says...
7:18pm Thu 5 Jul 12

I really feel sorry for Elaine. I could never live in Bowness again, it would be lovely if it wasn't for the tourists.

tictoc1 says...
10:24am Fri 6 Jul 12

It's clear that Elaine lives in a beautiful location. Yes "turoids" can be annoying, but alot of them keep the small businesses going. If she didn't want to be troubled, perhaps she should move somewhere more secluded?

Lakeuk says...
8:13pm Fri 6 Jul 12

So the beef here is visitors turning/using a 'private road', now there's a simple solution for Elaine assuming that everyone else on her street is equally annoyed and that is for them to stump up the cash to have a gate placed at the entrance and become a gated community

Footewalker says...
8:49pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Has Elaine checked to see if her problem is SatNav related? I am not sure they can recognise whether a road is "Private" or not. As to the issue with the Torch relay, is it not possible the offender was local to Cumbria himself? I would have thought most tourists would have watched the relay in their home town.

zaney5 says...
12:18pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Lakeuk wrote:
So the beef here is visitors turning/using a 'private road', now there's a simple solution for Elaine assuming that everyone else on her street is equally annoyed and that is for them to stump up the cash to have a gate placed at the entrance and become a gated community
But why should they? This area has lost much of its local community because of the pandering to tourists.

calanso says...
1:34pm Sat 7 Jul 12

How miserable and self-absorbed do you have to be to object to someone turning round in your driveway or private road? Presumably Elaine has never been lost or driven down the wrong street whilst looking for an address? Bill Bryson suggested we all make a deliberate point of turning our vehicles in driveways with 'no turning' signs even if we dont need to!
And for those bemoaning tourists in Bowness, yes they can be a pain in the backside but ask yourselves these 3 simple questions- 1, What would replace all the shops in Bowness that would close instantly without tourists? 2, what would the town be like if all those who work in tourism lost their jobs and turned to benefits? and 3, when you go on holiday or a day out somewhere nice, are you not a tourist?

zaney5 says...
5:11pm Sat 7 Jul 12

calanso wrote:
How miserable and self-absorbed do you have to be to object to someone turning round in your driveway or private road? Presumably Elaine has never been lost or driven down the wrong street whilst looking for an address? Bill Bryson suggested we all make a deliberate point of turning our vehicles in driveways with 'no turning' signs even if we dont need to!
And for those bemoaning tourists in Bowness, yes they can be a pain in the backside but ask yourselves these 3 simple questions- 1, What would replace all the shops in Bowness that would close instantly without tourists? 2, what would the town be like if all those who work in tourism lost their jobs and turned to benefits? and 3, when you go on holiday or a day out somewhere nice, are you not a tourist?
Turning round is one thing, I suspect most of us have done it at some point or other. However, having a non local deciding they can park where they **** well please without so much as a regard for the locals is another thing. And yes it's happened to me and my parking area used to be on private land! When told the person in question I got a shrug as he walked off. Now that kind of behaviour from a few doesn't exactly ahere me to the rest I'm afraid.
Funny, cos there is a rather nostalgic group on Facebook at the moment, all about growing up in the 70's & 80's and one of the topics of conversation is all about the old local shops that used to be around. Proper shops, for local people. The town was a thriving hub, a proper community. Nowadays it's a mass of outdoor clothing retailers and cafes. I consider myself very lucky to work in an industry that has nothing whatsoever to do with the local tourism - not even indirectly. I've done my fair share of pandering to them, not anymore.

lakesailor says...
6:36pm Sat 7 Jul 12

"I consider myself very lucky to work in an industry that has nothing whatsoever to do with the local tourism - not even indirectly."
Do tell. I bet we can find a link.

downtherabbithole says...
7:10pm Sat 7 Jul 12

I agree 100% as have encountered same problem myself. The sign cleary in out cul de sac states ' parking for residents only' but the walkers are happy to park there leaving the residents without a parking space. Also, why do the locals have to pay for parking, and toilet facilities for that matter, at pay and display?Why do locals have to pay tourist prices for everything as well? Why can't the council come up with some sort of badge or card only for locals which gives you local prices and free parking. Another idea, in every hotel and B&B,the tourists should be given a folder of instructions: how to behave as a tourist in the Lakes.'

JBean2 says...
9:51pm Sat 7 Jul 12

I totally agree with you Calanso when you say
"How miserable and self-absorbed do you have to be to object to someone turning round in your driveway or private road? "
One of my neighbours once had a go at someone for parking outside my house, so the person came and asked politely if I minded. I replied that of of course I didn't mind. Granted it is not a private road, but it is a cul-de-sac. Why would I mind? I don't own the road. At a later date the same neighbour parked right across my drive, blocking me in.
I suppose if you live on a private road you have chosen that and feel miffed if people don't respect your status.
Personally, I have lived in South Lakeland as an "off-comer" for nearly 20 years and am still amazed at the obsession with being "a local". The world has moved on, try treating everyone as a friend.

calanso says...
8:55am Sun 8 Jul 12

zaney5 wrote:
calanso wrote:
How miserable and self-absorbed do you have to be to object to someone turning round in your driveway or private road? Presumably Elaine has never been lost or driven down the wrong street whilst looking for an address? Bill Bryson suggested we all make a deliberate point of turning our vehicles in driveways with 'no turning' signs even if we dont need to!
And for those bemoaning tourists in Bowness, yes they can be a pain in the backside but ask yourselves these 3 simple questions- 1, What would replace all the shops in Bowness that would close instantly without tourists? 2, what would the town be like if all those who work in tourism lost their jobs and turned to benefits? and 3, when you go on holiday or a day out somewhere nice, are you not a tourist?
Turning round is one thing, I suspect most of us have done it at some point or other. However, having a non local deciding they can park where they **** well please without so much as a regard for the locals is another thing. And yes it's happened to me and my parking area used to be on private land! When told the person in question I got a shrug as he walked off. Now that kind of behaviour from a few doesn't exactly ahere me to the rest I'm afraid.
Funny, cos there is a rather nostalgic group on Facebook at the moment, all about growing up in the 70's & 80's and one of the topics of conversation is all about the old local shops that used to be around. Proper shops, for local people. The town was a thriving hub, a proper community. Nowadays it's a mass of outdoor clothing retailers and cafes. I consider myself very lucky to work in an industry that has nothing whatsoever to do with the local tourism - not even indirectly. I've done my fair share of pandering to them, not anymore.
Ah the heady, carefree 70's & 80's when Bowness throbbed with the vibrancy of Musgraves, McClures, Tasker's and Tiros! Them were the days!
"Local shops for local people"

Footewalker says...
10:32am Sun 8 Jul 12

I must admit, I thought this letter was a "wind-up" when I first read it, with the references to living in a "private road", having lived elsewhere, (so presumably not always being a local herself),etc . I do hope the point about giving visitors leaflets on how to behave in the Lakes is a joke,suprising as it may seem some of them are extensively educated,well brought up and even cultured, but possibly not so well bred as to say exactly what one could do with the leaflets. Patronising or what ! And finally, yesterday a "local" from Cumbria was airlifted to a hospital in Newcastle. Perhaps the Geordies should have said local hospitals for local people.

lakesailor says...
9:05am Mon 9 Jul 12

Whilst I agree that preaching to visitors will have little effect, and that most visitors are pretty responsible, I have seen people returning to their cars, getting a carrier bag of rubbish (from a picnic, I assume) and lobbing it over a wall before driving off. Some are more surreptitious and tuck it under the car in the gutter so that when they drive off the (now squashed remains) of their feast is left in the gutter.
They are probably just as slobby at home.

Happy Go Lucky says...
2:01pm Mon 9 Jul 12

What ever happened to treating others as you would like to be treat yourself? Being polite and having manners makes so much difference.

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