Parish council catches 45 speeding motorists in a single day with new speed gun

Volunteers with the speed gun

Volunteers with the speed gun

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A PARISH council has resorted to buying a speed gun to tackle foot-to-the-floor motorists passing through their South Lakeland village.

Preston Richard Parish Council has announced the launch of Community Speed Watch targeting vehicles speeding through Endmoor.

Parish council clerk Ann Park said: “For quite a number of years we’ve been complaining to the police about speeding traffic.

“We were approached by the police for the speed watch programme, and they issued us with a speed gun and have trained 15 volunteers to use it.”

She added that the speed limit is 30 mph through Endmoor and 40mph at Crooklands, but vehicles often drive at 40mph and 50 mph.

Forty-five cars were caught speeding on Sunday April 27, and across the seven monitoring sessions that have been carried out since, one car every three minutes is found to be breaking the law.

However, while the speed gun catches cars speeding and records their registration plate, drivers are not issued with a penalty.

Volunteers will use the authorised laser speed detection device at various locations in the village on random days and times to find out when and where speeding is most commonly happening.

Police Support Volunteer Michael Roberts, co-ordinating the Community Speed Watch programme, said: “Volunteers) send me the details of the speeding motorists and I look them up and send a letter advising speeding drivers of the offence.

“In time we will start to build up a picture of repeat motorists or hot spots and at that stage I will ask for the road police or the camera van to come along”

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Mr Roberts added that this was the first speed watch programme in South Lakeland but it is hoped that it will expand, with the communities of Sedbergh and Kirkby Lonsdale showing an interest.

Volunteer Glenn Smithers, of Endmoor, said: “We just want people to slow down and we don’t mind how they do it.

“They are going to build 125 houses here and there will be even more cars.”

For more information of how to get involved with the programme email Ann Park on clerk@prestonrichard.co.uk

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6:43pm Tue 6 May 14

ab oatman says...

Totally meaningless without figures, for all we know all 45 could have been going only 1 or 2 mph over the limit!
Totally meaningless without figures, for all we know all 45 could have been going only 1 or 2 mph over the limit! ab oatman
  • Score: 15

6:54pm Tue 6 May 14

WilliamT says...

Waste of time without prosecutions. Once it's been done for one day, that's enough 'building up a picture' nonsense- no need to do it again. Random day, speed van containing real policemen. Job done.
Waste of time without prosecutions. Once it's been done for one day, that's enough 'building up a picture' nonsense- no need to do it again. Random day, speed van containing real policemen. Job done. WilliamT
  • Score: -8

9:32pm Tue 6 May 14

kendal brat says...

Easy solution. Make it a 40 limit, then almost nobody would be speeding.
Easy solution. Make it a 40 limit, then almost nobody would be speeding. kendal brat
  • Score: 7

5:48am Wed 7 May 14

Grumpyoldbiker says...

kendal brat wrote:
Easy solution. Make it a 40 limit, then almost nobody would be speeding.
30mph is the limit for a reason. Children and elderly people may be trying to cross the road, there are the shops, club and nearby school. Respect the limit.
[quote][p][bold]kendal brat[/bold] wrote: Easy solution. Make it a 40 limit, then almost nobody would be speeding.[/p][/quote]30mph is the limit for a reason. Children and elderly people may be trying to cross the road, there are the shops, club and nearby school. Respect the limit. Grumpyoldbiker
  • Score: 9

12:11pm Wed 7 May 14

hogheaven says...

Install a speed camera job done ,if you break the speed limit you pay simple, more revenue for our councils
Install a speed camera job done ,if you break the speed limit you pay simple, more revenue for our councils hogheaven
  • Score: -2

1:23pm Wed 7 May 14

greenbell says...

hogheaven wrote:
Install a speed camera job done ,if you break the speed limit you pay simple, more revenue for our councils
I wish it were that easy. Where I live we have been asking the Council for a camera for several years but all we get are excuses. They have even installed a speed detector over the road next to a speed bump so the machine gives a false reading. As for the money going to the Council, they say that it goes direct to the Government so the Council are not interested.
[quote][p][bold]hogheaven[/bold] wrote: Install a speed camera job done ,if you break the speed limit you pay simple, more revenue for our councils[/p][/quote]I wish it were that easy. Where I live we have been asking the Council for a camera for several years but all we get are excuses. They have even installed a speed detector over the road next to a speed bump so the machine gives a false reading. As for the money going to the Council, they say that it goes direct to the Government so the Council are not interested. greenbell
  • Score: 0

8:21pm Wed 7 May 14

jazzactivist says...

There doesn't seem to be much point in having a speed gun and 15 people being trained to use it, and those volunteers giving up their time to operate it if penalties aren't being issued. Why not hand the recorded info over to the police for the Council to issue fines, and some of that money returned to the local community to use?
There doesn't seem to be much point in having a speed gun and 15 people being trained to use it, and those volunteers giving up their time to operate it if penalties aren't being issued. Why not hand the recorded info over to the police for the Council to issue fines, and some of that money returned to the local community to use? jazzactivist
  • Score: -7

10:04am Thu 8 May 14

Spotty Fish says...

Surely the whole idea of this is for it to act as a deterrent, not a punishment. It's purpose is to draw attention to the problem, and to educate the drivers. After all, isn't that what all speed cameras are for. They're not there to raise cash surely?
Surely the whole idea of this is for it to act as a deterrent, not a punishment. It's purpose is to draw attention to the problem, and to educate the drivers. After all, isn't that what all speed cameras are for. They're not there to raise cash surely? Spotty Fish
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Thu 8 May 14

WilliamT says...

No, we want the b******* caught and penalised. They don't need educating because they already know they're speeding. It's just that they don't care.
No, we want the b******* caught and penalised. They don't need educating because they already know they're speeding. It's just that they don't care. WilliamT
  • Score: 4

1:01pm Thu 8 May 14

Spotty Fish says...

So fining them won't make a scrap of difference then will it? If they know they're doing it and they don't care, then maybe a redesign of the road layout is the answer, and no, I don't mean stupid speed bumps. If the road is laid out in such a way that it is physically impossible to speed, then problem solved. Or would that slow the locals down too much? After all, they are usually the most guilty of speeding in their own villages.
So fining them won't make a scrap of difference then will it? If they know they're doing it and they don't care, then maybe a redesign of the road layout is the answer, and no, I don't mean stupid speed bumps. If the road is laid out in such a way that it is physically impossible to speed, then problem solved. Or would that slow the locals down too much? After all, they are usually the most guilty of speeding in their own villages. Spotty Fish
  • Score: 4

1:49pm Thu 8 May 14

WilliamT says...

Convictions mean points, and points mean prizes. They'll care about those all right.
Convictions mean points, and points mean prizes. They'll care about those all right. WilliamT
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Thu 8 May 14

kendal brat says...

Safety is THE key issue. I'd much rather see drivers taking care, concentrating and being attentive even if that causes them to stray over the limit a bit, rather than a driver constantly watching their speedo and nervously scanning the roadside for speed detection devices.
EVERYONE exceeds the speed limit through parts of Endmoor. I'm not aware of it being an accident blackspot as a result.
Safety is THE key issue. I'd much rather see drivers taking care, concentrating and being attentive even if that causes them to stray over the limit a bit, rather than a driver constantly watching their speedo and nervously scanning the roadside for speed detection devices. EVERYONE exceeds the speed limit through parts of Endmoor. I'm not aware of it being an accident blackspot as a result. kendal brat
  • Score: 2

7:29pm Thu 8 May 14

PropMeUpWithTeabags says...

The best things to have are those signs that tell you how fast you are going. Preferably with a smiling man and a frowning man. i will hold my hands up and say yes I have travelled through Endmoor more than once doing over 30mph and if I am late and it is at night I might even go above 40 mph. Occasional speed vans don't work neither do stationary cameras. If there is a speed camera you slam your brakes on at the speed camera and carry on faster through the bit that doesn't have a camera and with occasional police vans they are usually at times like weekends and never in the night.
The only thing that would make me stop and think are those signs that say 28mph and a smiley face...it sounds stupid but I think they work. More carrot and less stick.
The best things to have are those signs that tell you how fast you are going. Preferably with a smiling man and a frowning man. i will hold my hands up and say yes I have travelled through Endmoor more than once doing over 30mph and if I am late and it is at night I might even go above 40 mph. Occasional speed vans don't work neither do stationary cameras. If there is a speed camera you slam your brakes on at the speed camera and carry on faster through the bit that doesn't have a camera and with occasional police vans they are usually at times like weekends and never in the night. The only thing that would make me stop and think are those signs that say 28mph and a smiley face...it sounds stupid but I think they work. More carrot and less stick. PropMeUpWithTeabags
  • Score: 4

7:53pm Thu 8 May 14

Footyfan1968 says...

Schemes like these soon fizzle out when the rain starts again and it's freezing cold! Or when they realise most of the people they "catch" are their own neighbours.
Schemes like these soon fizzle out when the rain starts again and it's freezing cold! Or when they realise most of the people they "catch" are their own neighbours. Footyfan1968
  • Score: 8

9:00pm Fri 9 May 14

Gingery says...

I drive through Endmoor without speeding so unfortunately kendal brat your statement "EVERYONE" is not accurate.
I drive through Endmoor without speeding so unfortunately kendal brat your statement "EVERYONE" is not accurate. Gingery
  • Score: 3

9:46am Sat 10 May 14

kendal brat says...

Gingery wrote:
I drive through Endmoor without speeding so unfortunately kendal brat your statement "EVERYONE" is not accurate.
If you say so... ;-) I drive through Endmoor daily, and have yet to see anything other than a tractor stick within 30 on the straight out of Endmoor towards Gatebeck. It just doesn't happen I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Gingery[/bold] wrote: I drive through Endmoor without speeding so unfortunately kendal brat your statement "EVERYONE" is not accurate.[/p][/quote]If you say so... ;-) I drive through Endmoor daily, and have yet to see anything other than a tractor stick within 30 on the straight out of Endmoor towards Gatebeck. It just doesn't happen I'm afraid. kendal brat
  • Score: 0

10:51am Sun 11 May 14

Kendmoor says...

I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less.

If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way!
I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less. If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way! Kendmoor
  • Score: 0

2:54pm Sun 11 May 14

greenbell says...

Kendmoor wrote:
I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less.

If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way!
Oh dear!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Kendmoor[/bold] wrote: I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less. If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way![/p][/quote]Oh dear!!!!!! greenbell
  • Score: 0

8:10pm Sun 11 May 14

kendal brat says...

Kendmoor wrote:
I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less.

If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way!
"100% of the time we're stuck"....!! Wow!!!
Makes you wonder how they managed to get 45 speeders in a day! Haha!
Today I was behind a learner driver who struggled to keep his car below 40 going north out of Endmoor. There were five cars between the learner and me who were all "stuck" behind him.
It's funny how we only see what suits our argument! Hehe. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Kendmoor[/bold] wrote: I have to disagree completely with KendalBrat, I too drive through Endmoor *daily* and I agree with absoutely with Gingery, 100% of the time we're stuck behind someone doing the speed limit or less. If you truly do drive through Endmoor daily, Kendalbrat, then you should know fore well that that entire stretch of road from Crooklands...leading alllll the way to Oxenholme is an absolute trap for slower than slow drivers which you will be well and truely stuck behind with barely any safe places to over take the entire way![/p][/quote]"100% of the time we're stuck"....!! Wow!!! Makes you wonder how they managed to get 45 speeders in a day! Haha! Today I was behind a learner driver who struggled to keep his car below 40 going north out of Endmoor. There were five cars between the learner and me who were all "stuck" behind him. It's funny how we only see what suits our argument! Hehe. ;-) kendal brat
  • Score: 0

8:30am Mon 12 May 14

Ken.Moor says...

How they got 45 speeders in one day, when we get stuck behind someone who is deathly afraid of the speed limit (and corners, good lord, those corners are terrifying, better slow down to 20mph for those!) 100% of the time?

Because we aren't out 100% of the day....

When there are very few safe areas to overtake eventually you end up behind one of them.


Perhaps I'm just extremely unlucky, but years of it is taking it's toll, perhaps time to find a different route.

More on subject though, I understand the speed limit *through* Endmoor (turning at the clock and going down through the village past the playpark/school), it's very sensible and with the children around - needed. But the "back spine" of Endmoor, where the coppers usually hide...I don't see why that can't be 40, I barely ever see anyone walking along the path, or crossing the road to go up that hill with all the sheep.
How they got 45 speeders in one day, when we get stuck behind someone who is deathly afraid of the speed limit (and corners, good lord, those corners are terrifying, better slow down to 20mph for those!) 100% of the time? Because we aren't out 100% of the day.... When there are very few safe areas to overtake eventually you end up behind one of them. Perhaps I'm just extremely unlucky, but years of it is taking it's toll, perhaps time to find a different route. More on subject though, I understand the speed limit *through* Endmoor (turning at the clock and going down through the village past the playpark/school), it's very sensible and with the children around - needed. But the "back spine" of Endmoor, where the coppers usually hide...I don't see why that can't be 40, I barely ever see anyone walking along the path, or crossing the road to go up that hill with all the sheep. Ken.Moor
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Mon 12 May 14

Ken.Moor says...

My thought is that the reason it was dropped to 30 through that area is because the lay-by was at one time used for the bus route...but it no longer is. as the stops are within the village itself.
My thought is that the reason it was dropped to 30 through that area is because the lay-by was at one time used for the bus route...but it no longer is. as the stops are within the village itself. Ken.Moor
  • Score: 1

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