Cumbria County Council to push ahead with on-street parking charges

Cumbria County Council to push ahead with on-street parking charges

Cumbria County Council to push ahead with on-street parking charges

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CONTROVERSIAL on-street parking charges have been confirmed by Cumbria County Council (CCC) today (June 9).

At a scrutiny management board meeting held in Carlisle, members agreed on endorsing the cabinet’s decision to push ahead with implementing the charges.

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The board backed the decision despite two opposing cases presented by the independents councillors and Conservatives.

CCC Conservative leader councillor James Airey said he would overturn the decision to introduce on-street parking charges if he led the council after the next election.

Coun Airey raised concerns that there had been a lack of consultation for public and traders and added that there were other ways to make the money the council is set to lose over the next year.

But cabinet member for transport Keith Little said they had gone through the full consultation and that in the original 12 week period in South Lakeland they had no issues raised by any businesses, parishes, committees or public.

The board also heard from independents councillors who were concerned that there would be a blanket roll out of on-street parking charges.

However, they were reassured by the cabinet that they would work with the district councils and implementation would be down to the local committees.

Keith Little added that he was ‘disappointed’ to hear that Eden’s local committee would not be implementing the charges.

He added that the charges would reduce congestion in town centres, but Count Airey said that it would harm businesses because ‘no one would be there’.

A proposal was put forward to the board to refer the decision back to cabinet for a more in-depth look at the business case, financial details, enhanced consultation and an enhanced briefing for local committees.

But councillor Keith Hamilton successfully proposed endorsing the council’s decision to press ahead with on-street parking charges.

The cash-strapped county council’s decision has met fierce opposition from MPs and the public.

A total of 330 people turned out in force at a meeting in Windermere last week, organised by the newly-formed Windermere and Bowens Action Group.

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4:40pm Mon 9 Jun 14

hogheaven says...

Well looks like the CCC is going to railroad it through despite the publics vocal opposition. Plan B looms I fear, length of chain on the back of a truck should do it .
Well looks like the CCC is going to railroad it through despite the publics vocal opposition. Plan B looms I fear, length of chain on the back of a truck should do it . hogheaven
  • Score: 10

5:24pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Ken.Moor says...

No wise words from Tim Farron?
No wise words from Tim Farron? Ken.Moor
  • Score: 6

5:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

koopasdaddy says...

Who do CCC think they work for - between this and £10M for a new Kremlin they make the European parliament look frugal and sensible.

As for Ken.Moor's comment - there may not be a picture opportunity in it.
Who do CCC think they work for - between this and £10M for a new Kremlin they make the European parliament look frugal and sensible. As for Ken.Moor's comment - there may not be a picture opportunity in it. koopasdaddy
  • Score: 12

6:10pm Mon 9 Jun 14

snuggle-bunny says...

I thought it was illegal to use car parking charges as a means of revenue raising or taxation and that the money raised from such has to be put back into car parking. can anyone enlighten me on this. It seems that there's no level to which c ccc and their like will not stoop to rip off the public and the motorist. I, for one, wont be visiting these places
I thought it was illegal to use car parking charges as a means of revenue raising or taxation and that the money raised from such has to be put back into car parking. can anyone enlighten me on this. It seems that there's no level to which c ccc and their like will not stoop to rip off the public and the motorist. I, for one, wont be visiting these places snuggle-bunny
  • Score: 14

8:29pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Southern Lakes Lad says...

The arrogance of CCC is staggering, do they honestly believe that as a community we will simply roll over and die here. They keep banging on about how we didn't object during the consultation period, well actually many of us did and guess what our opinions were ignored anyway. Perhaps the scrutiny committee can take a look at how the Council have come up with the figure of £700,000, and how the income from this will vary from area to area. I am not an accountant but the figures simply don't stand up when scrutinised.
Will the likes of Keith Little underwrite the legal costs that the County Council are now going to face when they lose the court case that will follow this action. I am certain that as council tax payers we will end up footing the bill to fight ourselves.Perhaps the money should come out of the pension pot for these people ,then at least we could have some sense of justice.
The arrogance of CCC is staggering, do they honestly believe that as a community we will simply roll over and die here. They keep banging on about how we didn't object during the consultation period, well actually many of us did and guess what our opinions were ignored anyway. Perhaps the scrutiny committee can take a look at how the Council have come up with the figure of £700,000, and how the income from this will vary from area to area. I am not an accountant but the figures simply don't stand up when scrutinised. Will the likes of Keith Little underwrite the legal costs that the County Council are now going to face when they lose the court case that will follow this action. I am certain that as council tax payers we will end up footing the bill to fight ourselves.Perhaps the money should come out of the pension pot for these people ,then at least we could have some sense of justice. Southern Lakes Lad
  • Score: 14

11:42pm Mon 9 Jun 14

PropMeUpWithTeabags says...

It's very a very tricky situation. the CCC have to cut their budget by something like £24 million pounds. I as a resident do not want to lose services and would rather the council charged for parking to bring in revenue than continue to close libraries, children's services and cut school budgets. The majority of people living in the local area would not pay these charges as they already have permits, or should live close enough to walk or cycle to the shops. Where I live I don't have a parking space or a permit and I have to pay to park my car in the car parks at a cost of £358 a year. I can afford to drive so I can afford to pay parking charges.
I hope the new ticket machines are like the ones at brockhole where you pay for the time used and not an approximate time. So I can pay for 20 mins or 5 hours if I want.
This will hit tourists the hardest, but I can't see them deciding not to go to Windermere because they have to pay £1 to park for an hour. If they do then they probably aren't going to pay for anything anyway and would be the types that bring a thermos flask of coffee because they won't pay £1.20 for a coffee at a small independent tea shop. These tourists aren't the sort the lakes need anyway.
It's very a very tricky situation. the CCC have to cut their budget by something like £24 million pounds. I as a resident do not want to lose services and would rather the council charged for parking to bring in revenue than continue to close libraries, children's services and cut school budgets. The majority of people living in the local area would not pay these charges as they already have permits, or should live close enough to walk or cycle to the shops. Where I live I don't have a parking space or a permit and I have to pay to park my car in the car parks at a cost of £358 a year. I can afford to drive so I can afford to pay parking charges. I hope the new ticket machines are like the ones at brockhole where you pay for the time used and not an approximate time. So I can pay for 20 mins or 5 hours if I want. This will hit tourists the hardest, but I can't see them deciding not to go to Windermere because they have to pay £1 to park for an hour. If they do then they probably aren't going to pay for anything anyway and would be the types that bring a thermos flask of coffee because they won't pay £1.20 for a coffee at a small independent tea shop. These tourists aren't the sort the lakes need anyway. PropMeUpWithTeabags
  • Score: -6

12:08am Tue 10 Jun 14

life cycle too says...

hogheaven wrote:
Well looks like the CCC is going to railroad it through despite the publics vocal opposition. Plan B looms I fear, length of chain on the back of a truck should do it .
James Airey, leader of the Conservative contingent of the County Council pledged to remove the meters if they are implemented, and if the conservatives were elected to power.
►"CCC Conservative leader councillor James Airey said he would overturn the decision to introduce on-street parking charges when he lead the council after the next election."◄
So there IS a plan B!! Let us hope that we don't have to rely on it, and that the Local Committee are swayed by their Liberal ally Tim Farron MP, and follow Eden Councils action in refusing to implement the measures.
[quote][p][bold]hogheaven[/bold] wrote: Well looks like the CCC is going to railroad it through despite the publics vocal opposition. Plan B looms I fear, length of chain on the back of a truck should do it .[/p][/quote]James Airey, leader of the Conservative contingent of the County Council pledged to remove the meters if they are implemented, and if the conservatives were elected to power. ►"CCC Conservative leader councillor James Airey said he would overturn the decision to introduce on-street parking charges when he lead the council after the next election."◄ So there IS a plan B!! Let us hope that we don't have to rely on it, and that the Local Committee are swayed by their Liberal ally Tim Farron MP, and follow Eden Councils action in refusing to implement the measures. life cycle too
  • Score: 3

12:16am Tue 10 Jun 14

life cycle too says...

snuggle-bunny wrote:
I thought it was illegal to use car parking charges as a means of revenue raising or taxation and that the money raised from such has to be put back into car parking. can anyone enlighten me on this. It seems that there's no level to which c ccc and their like will not stoop to rip off the public and the motorist. I, for one, wont be visiting these places
I'm sure it is not illegal, but I think Eric Pickles said it was wrong to use the revenue derived from parking PENALTIES from drivers who are penalised for straying from the rules... not the charges.
If charges were not allowed to be spent elsewhere, SLDC would have had to reduce their charges already!
After Council Tax charges, parking is one of SLDCs biggest money earners - and tourist honey pots collect more than other towns - it is dearer to park in a SLDC car park in Windermere or Ambleside than it is in Kendals car parks! Now the County Council aim to take a cut too!!
[quote][p][bold]snuggle-bunny[/bold] wrote: I thought it was illegal to use car parking charges as a means of revenue raising or taxation and that the money raised from such has to be put back into car parking. can anyone enlighten me on this. It seems that there's no level to which c ccc and their like will not stoop to rip off the public and the motorist. I, for one, wont be visiting these places[/p][/quote]I'm sure it is not illegal, but I think Eric Pickles said it was wrong to use the revenue derived from parking PENALTIES from drivers who are penalised for straying from the rules... not the charges. If charges were not allowed to be spent elsewhere, SLDC would have had to reduce their charges already! After Council Tax charges, parking is one of SLDCs biggest money earners - and tourist honey pots collect more than other towns - it is dearer to park in a SLDC car park in Windermere or Ambleside than it is in Kendals car parks! Now the County Council aim to take a cut too!! life cycle too
  • Score: 3

5:14am Tue 10 Jun 14

Grumpyoldbiker says...

Very sad day for the local businesses. With poor public transport provision and the average age of residents high, cars are essential. If you have to pay for parking locally you might as well wait and go to one of the larger towns or buy online and have it delivered. As for tourists, Cumbria is not unique. North Wales, The Borders, Dumfries and Galloway and Northumbria are not far away. They can chose to go elsewhere too. So much for a welcome.
Very sad day for the local businesses. With poor public transport provision and the average age of residents high, cars are essential. If you have to pay for parking locally you might as well wait and go to one of the larger towns or buy online and have it delivered. As for tourists, Cumbria is not unique. North Wales, The Borders, Dumfries and Galloway and Northumbria are not far away. They can chose to go elsewhere too. So much for a welcome. Grumpyoldbiker
  • Score: 6

7:20am Tue 10 Jun 14

Fishing mad says...

The council don't mind where they get money from they put parking tickets on cars in elterwater where it is common land totally wrong but again easy way of making money for them hope when this comes back at them they have to pay all fines back
The council don't mind where they get money from they put parking tickets on cars in elterwater where it is common land totally wrong but again easy way of making money for them hope when this comes back at them they have to pay all fines back Fishing mad
  • Score: 6

8:30am Tue 10 Jun 14

maggieann2luke says...

Fishing mad wrote:
The council don't mind where they get money from they put parking tickets on cars in elterwater where it is common land totally wrong but again easy way of making money for them hope when this comes back at them they have to pay all fines back
there are "no parking" signs at elterwater which many people choose to ignore. I've seen times when I couldn't get my car through between parked cars never mind the bus service or emergency vehicles.
As for as on-street parking I pay council tax here as well as road tax and won't be happy paying to collect my prescriptions.
[quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: The council don't mind where they get money from they put parking tickets on cars in elterwater where it is common land totally wrong but again easy way of making money for them hope when this comes back at them they have to pay all fines back[/p][/quote]there are "no parking" signs at elterwater which many people choose to ignore. I've seen times when I couldn't get my car through between parked cars never mind the bus service or emergency vehicles. As for as on-street parking I pay council tax here as well as road tax and won't be happy paying to collect my prescriptions. maggieann2luke
  • Score: 3

8:50am Tue 10 Jun 14

Lakesbloke says...

Frustrating isn't it, that those who are democratically elected by us either don't listen or are outgunned by paid officers (non democratic) or by Counicllors who don't live and /or work in the reas affected? Eden haven't gone the way of on street charging, so why have CCC? Eden are a District Council like SLDC, so how can they not have it imposed like in SLDC?
Can all the Parish & Town Councils of the area not band together and ask for a judicial review or just simply refuse to work with CCC?
I'd watch going to N Wales though, I got done for a 7 minute overstay on a 2 hour ticket at the end of a day and there were only 2 other cars on the car park!
Frustrating isn't it, that those who are democratically elected by us either don't listen or are outgunned by paid officers (non democratic) or by Counicllors who don't live and /or work in the reas affected? Eden haven't gone the way of on street charging, so why have CCC? Eden are a District Council like SLDC, so how can they not have it imposed like in SLDC? Can all the Parish & Town Councils of the area not band together and ask for a judicial review or just simply refuse to work with CCC? I'd watch going to N Wales though, I got done for a 7 minute overstay on a 2 hour ticket at the end of a day and there were only 2 other cars on the car park! Lakesbloke
  • Score: 4

9:07am Tue 10 Jun 14

monicajean says...

My take on this ludicrous situation is this, we locals keep the local businesses ticking over through the lean winter months - not the tourists. I live in Bowness and yes I could walk to the shops but when it is dark, freezing cold or raining why should I. I will not pay to park up just to pop in a shop for a fresh sandwich from Bowness Deli, newspaper and sweets from Bargain Booze or a pint of milk I will drive up to Windermere to Morrisons or Booths with their free parking and I am not the only one thinking this. It just shows what our elected think of their electorate but the fight will go on and we must all get behind the Action Group and make our feelings known.
My take on this ludicrous situation is this, we locals keep the local businesses ticking over through the lean winter months - not the tourists. I live in Bowness and yes I could walk to the shops but when it is dark, freezing cold or raining why should I. I will not pay to park up just to pop in a shop for a fresh sandwich from Bowness Deli, newspaper and sweets from Bargain Booze or a pint of milk I will drive up to Windermere to Morrisons or Booths with their free parking and I am not the only one thinking this. It just shows what our elected think of their electorate but the fight will go on and we must all get behind the Action Group and make our feelings known. monicajean
  • Score: 11

9:25am Tue 10 Jun 14

hogheaven says...

monicajean wrote:
My take on this ludicrous situation is this, we locals keep the local businesses ticking over through the lean winter months - not the tourists. I live in Bowness and yes I could walk to the shops but when it is dark, freezing cold or raining why should I. I will not pay to park up just to pop in a shop for a fresh sandwich from Bowness Deli, newspaper and sweets from Bargain Booze or a pint of milk I will drive up to Windermere to Morrisons or Booths with their free parking and I am not the only one thinking this. It just shows what our elected think of their electorate but the fight will go on and we must all get behind the Action Group and make our feelings known.
I think our feelings are well known Monicajean they CCC and SLDC choose to ignore them.The ballot box next year is the ideal time to remove them from their high perches , but to do this the public must vote, dont leave it to someone else.
[quote][p][bold]monicajean[/bold] wrote: My take on this ludicrous situation is this, we locals keep the local businesses ticking over through the lean winter months - not the tourists. I live in Bowness and yes I could walk to the shops but when it is dark, freezing cold or raining why should I. I will not pay to park up just to pop in a shop for a fresh sandwich from Bowness Deli, newspaper and sweets from Bargain Booze or a pint of milk I will drive up to Windermere to Morrisons or Booths with their free parking and I am not the only one thinking this. It just shows what our elected think of their electorate but the fight will go on and we must all get behind the Action Group and make our feelings known.[/p][/quote]I think our feelings are well known Monicajean they CCC and SLDC choose to ignore them.The ballot box next year is the ideal time to remove them from their high perches , but to do this the public must vote, dont leave it to someone else. hogheaven
  • Score: 7

1:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Fishing mad says...

There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded
There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded Fishing mad
  • Score: 2

1:05pm Tue 10 Jun 14

hogheaven says...

Fishing mad wrote:
There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded
Worth looking into if you been given a ticket.
[quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded[/p][/quote]Worth looking into if you been given a ticket. hogheaven
  • Score: 0

1:30pm Tue 10 Jun 14

maggieann2luke says...

Fishing mad wrote:
There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded
I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really.
[quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded[/p][/quote]I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really. maggieann2luke
  • Score: 2

2:19pm Tue 10 Jun 14

davidearnshaw says...

I would just like to clarify about who does what with respect to County and District Councils. Neither South Lakeland District Council, or any other DISTRICT COUNCIL in Cumbria has absolutely no part to play in this saga ----- it is entirely a County Council matter ( County Council does not own any car parks, just the roads --- all local authority car parks in Cumbria are owned by District Councils. Cumbria County Council is divided into 6 sub administration areas / committees ---- hence the possible confusion -------- the areas are --- Allerdale, Barrow, Carlisle, Copeland, Eden, and South Lakeland ---- so in our case we have The South Lakes Local Committee of Cumbria County Council, and it is made up of COUNTY Councillors from the area of South Lakeland, ------ it is just coincidence that some of these councillors have been elected to serve on both councils ----- so it does not serve any purpose on this issue of on street parking charges in lobbying SLDC Councillors.
I would just like to clarify about who does what with respect to County and District Councils. Neither South Lakeland District Council, or any other DISTRICT COUNCIL in Cumbria has absolutely no part to play in this saga ----- it is entirely a County Council matter ( County Council does not own any car parks, just the roads --- all local authority car parks in Cumbria are owned by District Councils. Cumbria County Council is divided into 6 sub administration areas / committees ---- hence the possible confusion -------- the areas are --- Allerdale, Barrow, Carlisle, Copeland, Eden, and South Lakeland ---- so in our case we have The South Lakes Local Committee of Cumbria County Council, and it is made up of COUNTY Councillors from the area of South Lakeland, ------ it is just coincidence that some of these councillors have been elected to serve on both councils ----- so it does not serve any purpose on this issue of on street parking charges in lobbying SLDC Councillors. davidearnshaw
  • Score: 2

3:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

pax voblis says...

PropMeUpWithTeabags wrote:
It's very a very tricky situation. the CCC have to cut their budget by something like £24 million pounds. I as a resident do not want to lose services and would rather the council charged for parking to bring in revenue than continue to close libraries, children's services and cut school budgets. The majority of people living in the local area would not pay these charges as they already have permits, or should live close enough to walk or cycle to the shops. Where I live I don't have a parking space or a permit and I have to pay to park my car in the car parks at a cost of £358 a year. I can afford to drive so I can afford to pay parking charges.
I hope the new ticket machines are like the ones at brockhole where you pay for the time used and not an approximate time. So I can pay for 20 mins or 5 hours if I want.
This will hit tourists the hardest, but I can't see them deciding not to go to Windermere because they have to pay £1 to park for an hour. If they do then they probably aren't going to pay for anything anyway and would be the types that bring a thermos flask of coffee because they won't pay £1.20 for a coffee at a small independent tea shop. These tourists aren't the sort the lakes need anyway.
These are your northern visitors the type who are your bread and butter and it is they that line your pockets.Since the Foot and Mouth epidemic the lakes as recovered,got healthier year on year and now thinks it is supernatural.Greed lies at the core of this subject from the price of a brew,pint,meal,ice cream and short/long stay car parking and lots of the attractions also.The kind of tourists you want are the moronic.materialisti
c and short sighted.The lakes tourist economy generates enough money to cover all council shortfalls and then some and still feed the greedy.you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]PropMeUpWithTeabags[/bold] wrote: It's very a very tricky situation. the CCC have to cut their budget by something like £24 million pounds. I as a resident do not want to lose services and would rather the council charged for parking to bring in revenue than continue to close libraries, children's services and cut school budgets. The majority of people living in the local area would not pay these charges as they already have permits, or should live close enough to walk or cycle to the shops. Where I live I don't have a parking space or a permit and I have to pay to park my car in the car parks at a cost of £358 a year. I can afford to drive so I can afford to pay parking charges. I hope the new ticket machines are like the ones at brockhole where you pay for the time used and not an approximate time. So I can pay for 20 mins or 5 hours if I want. This will hit tourists the hardest, but I can't see them deciding not to go to Windermere because they have to pay £1 to park for an hour. If they do then they probably aren't going to pay for anything anyway and would be the types that bring a thermos flask of coffee because they won't pay £1.20 for a coffee at a small independent tea shop. These tourists aren't the sort the lakes need anyway.[/p][/quote]These are your northern visitors the type who are your bread and butter and it is they that line your pockets.Since the Foot and Mouth epidemic the lakes as recovered,got healthier year on year and now thinks it is supernatural.Greed lies at the core of this subject from the price of a brew,pint,meal,ice cream and short/long stay car parking and lots of the attractions also.The kind of tourists you want are the moronic.materialisti c and short sighted.The lakes tourist economy generates enough money to cover all council shortfalls and then some and still feed the greedy.you need to wake up and smell the coffee. pax voblis
  • Score: -1

3:55pm Tue 10 Jun 14

greenbell says...

Well, I think that there is a silver lining to all of this. Dr, Earnshaw will have to join the cycle brigade and ride on two wheels to the shops!
Well, I think that there is a silver lining to all of this. Dr, Earnshaw will have to join the cycle brigade and ride on two wheels to the shops! greenbell
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Tue 10 Jun 14

bob wilkinson says...

"Consultaion" by public bodies relies on inertia. They are a farcical waste of time. They have usually decided what they will do - and the public think it is a waste of time to protest.

The decision of CCC only shows how gout of touch many councillors are with the real world, and how little they regard the public they claim to represent.

Actually, to use their parking charge "powers" to raise general revenue is of extremely doubtful legality. I am surprised that the AA or the RAC has not so far challenged such scams in the High Court as an abuse of the Law.
"Consultaion" by public bodies relies on inertia. They are a farcical waste of time. They have usually decided what they will do - and the public think it is a waste of time to protest. The decision of CCC only shows how gout of touch many councillors are with the real world, and how little they regard the public they claim to represent. Actually, to use their parking charge "powers" to raise general revenue is of extremely doubtful legality. I am surprised that the AA or the RAC has not so far challenged such scams in the High Court as an abuse of the Law. bob wilkinson
  • Score: 2

5:06pm Tue 10 Jun 14

davidearnshaw says...

Mmmmm --- Good thought greenbell ----- but would rather use 2 legs and a backpack,only 5 mins to town centre ----
much safer --- think can manage that ---- not long completed a 2 month trek in Himalayas up to 18000ft.
Mmmmm --- Good thought greenbell ----- but would rather use 2 legs and a backpack,only 5 mins to town centre ---- much safer --- think can manage that ---- not long completed a 2 month trek in Himalayas up to 18000ft. davidearnshaw
  • Score: 1

5:23pm Tue 10 Jun 14

greenbell says...

davidearnshaw wrote:
Mmmmm --- Good thought greenbell ----- but would rather use 2 legs and a backpack,only 5 mins to town centre ----
much safer --- think can manage that ---- not long completed a 2 month trek in Himalayas up to 18000ft.
Good for you David. Keep it up!
[quote][p][bold]davidearnshaw[/bold] wrote: Mmmmm --- Good thought greenbell ----- but would rather use 2 legs and a backpack,only 5 mins to town centre ---- much safer --- think can manage that ---- not long completed a 2 month trek in Himalayas up to 18000ft.[/p][/quote]Good for you David. Keep it up! greenbell
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Tue 10 Jun 14

KendalLad says...

At the risk of sounding in popular on this thread I do not mind paying a small charge for on street parking. I'm a ordinary worker living in Kendal with two small children who relies on a car due to the dire public transport in our area.

I cannot see an issue with paying £1 or so which these days is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. It is not nice at all but we have not had any increases in council tax for quite a while now and of this is what if takes then so be it. It also might make people think a bit more about how essential their journey actually is.

Before anyone comments this is simply my opinion. We come into both Windermere and ambleside at least once a fortnight for its beauty and a small parking charge will not stop this.
At the risk of sounding in popular on this thread I do not mind paying a small charge for on street parking. I'm a ordinary worker living in Kendal with two small children who relies on a car due to the dire public transport in our area. I cannot see an issue with paying £1 or so which these days is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. It is not nice at all but we have not had any increases in council tax for quite a while now and of this is what if takes then so be it. It also might make people think a bit more about how essential their journey actually is. Before anyone comments this is simply my opinion. We come into both Windermere and ambleside at least once a fortnight for its beauty and a small parking charge will not stop this. KendalLad
  • Score: -1

11:44pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Fishing mad says...

maggieann2luke wrote:
Fishing mad wrote:
There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded
I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really.
The signs are legal for the road not for land that does not belong to them and no I don't park on double yellows but the matter I brought up was why do they ticket on land that does not belong to them if you can answer then do or hush up ;)
[quote][p][bold]maggieann2luke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded[/p][/quote]I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really.[/p][/quote]The signs are legal for the road not for land that does not belong to them and no I don't park on double yellows but the matter I brought up was why do they ticket on land that does not belong to them if you can answer then do or hush up ;) Fishing mad
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9:20am Wed 11 Jun 14

maggieann2luke says...

Fishing mad wrote:
maggieann2luke wrote:
Fishing mad wrote:
There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded
I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really.
The signs are legal for the road not for land that does not belong to them and no I don't park on double yellows but the matter I brought up was why do they ticket on land that does not belong to them if you can answer then do or hush up ;)
Those signs were put there to stop cars being parked on both sides of the roads restricting access. I rather think grass verges are part of the highway and therefore fines can be enforced. Just because it's common land doesn't mean you can park where you want.
Back to the main issue of paying to park in Ambleside is more important. The current 1hour disc parking should continue, anyone wanting to park for longer use the car parks.
[quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maggieann2luke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fishing mad[/bold] wrote: There might be signs at elterwater saying no parking but they are about as lawful as the no cycling sign in the park at ambleside but anyone parked on common land at elterwater should not get a ticket as it is not council land on the road fair enough all other tickets should be refunded[/p][/quote]I daresay you are one of those who parks on double yellow lines and in between police no parking cones. The signs are legal and mean what they say. The grass there was damaged by delivery wagons and is now parked on by drivers who are unable to read. There are 3 car parks at Elterwater, use them and you won't get done. Simple really.[/p][/quote]The signs are legal for the road not for land that does not belong to them and no I don't park on double yellows but the matter I brought up was why do they ticket on land that does not belong to them if you can answer then do or hush up ;)[/p][/quote]Those signs were put there to stop cars being parked on both sides of the roads restricting access. I rather think grass verges are part of the highway and therefore fines can be enforced. Just because it's common land doesn't mean you can park where you want. Back to the main issue of paying to park in Ambleside is more important. The current 1hour disc parking should continue, anyone wanting to park for longer use the car parks. maggieann2luke
  • Score: 1

1:53pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Gingery says...

I too don't think a charge of a few pounds to park is going to put many if any visitors off. They might moan about it, but I moan about the parking charges in Manchester which are a lot higher but doesn't stop me going there and same with other places. The lakes is a nice area that tourists visit I don't think they are going to disappear. I would however like to see penalties properly enforced - people parking whereeve they want on double yellows, pavements, corners that sort of thing which can be dangerous and cause damage.
I too don't think a charge of a few pounds to park is going to put many if any visitors off. They might moan about it, but I moan about the parking charges in Manchester which are a lot higher but doesn't stop me going there and same with other places. The lakes is a nice area that tourists visit I don't think they are going to disappear. I would however like to see penalties properly enforced - people parking whereeve they want on double yellows, pavements, corners that sort of thing which can be dangerous and cause damage. Gingery
  • Score: 0

3:10pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Southern Lakes Lad says...

Hi Gingery. The biggest impact of these charges will be on locals and the local businesses that survive on a combination of local and tourist trade. What most people don't seem to understand here is that the average local wage here in South Lakeland is more than 20% below the national average,whilst property prices are way above the national average and in some areas 300% above. Combine high property costs with low wages and you can begin to see where the problems are. Many tourists appreciate the unique nature of our high streets .The businesses least impacted by these charges would be your outdoor clothing and other retailers who tend to rely on the tourist pound.Our unique retailers are the ones under most threat by this.
Think about going out to buy a paper, pint milk and a loaf of bread. These items would be roughly £2, now you could pop into the local independent shop after putting up to £1.80p into the parking meter (the proposed hourly rate in Ambleside and Windermere) or you could travel 2 minutes further to the new supermarket and pay nothing to park. Where would the typical person go ,it is a no brainer. Also as a rural community many of us can't just walk to the shops ,and many of those that live in the villages are older and can't manage the shopping on foot.
Hi Gingery. The biggest impact of these charges will be on locals and the local businesses that survive on a combination of local and tourist trade. What most people don't seem to understand here is that the average local wage here in South Lakeland is more than 20% below the national average,whilst property prices are way above the national average and in some areas 300% above. Combine high property costs with low wages and you can begin to see where the problems are. Many tourists appreciate the unique nature of our high streets .The businesses least impacted by these charges would be your outdoor clothing and other retailers who tend to rely on the tourist pound.Our unique retailers are the ones under most threat by this. Think about going out to buy a paper, pint milk and a loaf of bread. These items would be roughly £2, now you could pop into the local independent shop after putting up to £1.80p into the parking meter (the proposed hourly rate in Ambleside and Windermere) or you could travel 2 minutes further to the new supermarket and pay nothing to park. Where would the typical person go ,it is a no brainer. Also as a rural community many of us can't just walk to the shops ,and many of those that live in the villages are older and can't manage the shopping on foot. Southern Lakes Lad
  • Score: 9

9:19am Sat 14 Jun 14

PropMeUpWithTeabags says...

Southern Lakes Lad wrote:
Hi Gingery. The biggest impact of these charges will be on locals and the local businesses that survive on a combination of local and tourist trade. What most people don't seem to understand here is that the average local wage here in South Lakeland is more than 20% below the national average,whilst property prices are way above the national average and in some areas 300% above. Combine high property costs with low wages and you can begin to see where the problems are. Many tourists appreciate the unique nature of our high streets .The businesses least impacted by these charges would be your outdoor clothing and other retailers who tend to rely on the tourist pound.Our unique retailers are the ones under most threat by this.
Think about going out to buy a paper, pint milk and a loaf of bread. These items would be roughly £2, now you could pop into the local independent shop after putting up to £1.80p into the parking meter (the proposed hourly rate in Ambleside and Windermere) or you could travel 2 minutes further to the new supermarket and pay nothing to park. Where would the typical person go ,it is a no brainer. Also as a rural community many of us can't just walk to the shops ,and many of those that live in the villages are older and can't manage the shopping on foot.
Well if you don't like it, don't live there.
[quote][p][bold]Southern Lakes Lad[/bold] wrote: Hi Gingery. The biggest impact of these charges will be on locals and the local businesses that survive on a combination of local and tourist trade. What most people don't seem to understand here is that the average local wage here in South Lakeland is more than 20% below the national average,whilst property prices are way above the national average and in some areas 300% above. Combine high property costs with low wages and you can begin to see where the problems are. Many tourists appreciate the unique nature of our high streets .The businesses least impacted by these charges would be your outdoor clothing and other retailers who tend to rely on the tourist pound.Our unique retailers are the ones under most threat by this. Think about going out to buy a paper, pint milk and a loaf of bread. These items would be roughly £2, now you could pop into the local independent shop after putting up to £1.80p into the parking meter (the proposed hourly rate in Ambleside and Windermere) or you could travel 2 minutes further to the new supermarket and pay nothing to park. Where would the typical person go ,it is a no brainer. Also as a rural community many of us can't just walk to the shops ,and many of those that live in the villages are older and can't manage the shopping on foot.[/p][/quote]Well if you don't like it, don't live there. PropMeUpWithTeabags
  • Score: -6

11:03am Sat 14 Jun 14

Spotty Fish says...

Wow PMUPT - incisive thought provoking stuff!!!
Wow PMUPT - incisive thought provoking stuff!!! Spotty Fish
  • Score: -1

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